1 00:00:25,990 --> 00:00:21,070 [Music] 2 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:26,000 the smoke radio for the masses of July 8 3 00:00:31,730 --> 00:00:29,340 1947 the Army Air Forces has announced 4 00:00:37,810 --> 00:00:31,740 that a flying disc has been found and is 5 00:00:45,290 --> 00:00:41,450 I occasionally think how quickly our 6 00:00:47,869 --> 00:00:45,300 differences worldwide would vanish if we 7 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:47,879 were facing an alien threat from outside 8 00:00:50,770 --> 00:00:48,870 this work 9 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:50,780 [Music] 10 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:50,960 [Applause] 11 00:00:56,209 --> 00:00:53,520 [Music] 12 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:56,219 this is Fade to Black with your host 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:00:59,039 Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio 14 00:01:03,549 --> 00:00:59,730 Network 15 00:01:08,030 --> 00:01:03,559 [Music] 16 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,040 good evening Fade to Black today is 17 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:11,040 Thursday April 20th happy 420 day 18 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:14,400 everybody out there 2023 I'm your old 19 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:16,320 chibi church and tonight it is time 20 00:01:19,570 --> 00:01:17,280 travel 21 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:19,580 time shifts 22 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:23,700 my favorite subject well I thought last 23 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:25,680 night was my favorite or the night 24 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:29,600 before that or any show last week oh no 25 00:01:34,670 --> 00:01:31,380 we know 26 00:01:37,490 --> 00:01:34,680 it's time travel and tonight Our Guest 27 00:01:40,730 --> 00:01:37,500 is Von brashler we're going to be 28 00:01:43,069 --> 00:01:40,740 discussing his book time shifts uh he's 29 00:01:45,050 --> 00:01:43,079 the author of many books several books 30 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:45,060 on Consciousness development including 31 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:47,640 time shifts manifesting mysterious 32 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:50,399 messages from Beyond all my favorite 33 00:01:53,810 --> 00:01:51,600 subjects 34 00:01:56,389 --> 00:01:53,820 I have the feeling this is Vaughn's 35 00:01:58,850 --> 00:01:56,399 first time on the show I think we've got 36 00:02:01,370 --> 00:01:58,860 a lot of uh visiting with Von coming up 37 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:01,380 in our future his recent publication 38 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:03,840 from shiffer books is past lives the 39 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:06,840 first in a series called ancient wisdom 40 00:02:12,290 --> 00:02:10,440 and it's in a scroll format he's a 41 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,300 formal faculty member of the Omega 42 00:02:17,330 --> 00:02:14,400 Institute for holistic studies in 43 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:17,340 Rhinebeck New York and currently lives 44 00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:18,959 on an island 45 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:21,480 as I let everybody know a few minutes 46 00:02:26,089 --> 00:02:24,660 ago in the Pacific Northwest and I would 47 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:26,099 like to welcome for the first time to 48 00:02:29,290 --> 00:02:27,300 Fade to Black 49 00:02:32,890 --> 00:02:29,300 Von brashler 50 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:32,900 that was uh that was a nail biter Vaughn 51 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:36,480 yes yes good to join you Jimmy thank you 52 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:38,819 yeah it's great to have you here and 53 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:42,239 this is we need to start off with the 54 00:02:47,089 --> 00:02:45,300 First Time guest disclaimer Von so let's 55 00:02:49,610 --> 00:02:47,099 get that out of the way you know it's a 56 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:49,620 terms of service kind of thing which is 57 00:02:53,089 --> 00:02:51,360 fine it's just you and I sitting on my 58 00:02:55,490 --> 00:02:53,099 couch having a conversation as friends 59 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:55,500 and where that conversation starts it 60 00:03:00,110 --> 00:02:57,840 starts where it ends and ends but we're 61 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:00,120 remained as friends there you go you got 62 00:03:07,490 --> 00:03:03,860 a click accept you got to click 63 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:07,500 you got it you got it you know uh time 64 00:03:11,630 --> 00:03:08,360 travel 65 00:03:14,449 --> 00:03:11,640 uh and we are going to discuss just 66 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,459 about every aspect of it tonight and I'm 67 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:16,800 really looking forward to it 68 00:03:23,330 --> 00:03:19,500 um but before we get started 69 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:23,340 I just want to let everybody know uh yes 70 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:27,780 I I I texted out I tweeted out I did all 71 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,239 this in that uh tonight we were going to 72 00:03:34,690 --> 00:03:32,400 do an AMA because Vaughn's got a storm 73 00:03:37,550 --> 00:03:34,700 rolling through his Island 74 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:37,560 and uh he's lost his internet and lost 75 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:41,280 his power and you know okay everybody 76 00:03:45,710 --> 00:03:43,680 was like an AMA okay Jimmy we'll ride 77 00:03:48,110 --> 00:03:45,720 through that but 78 00:03:49,850 --> 00:03:48,120 um a few minutes before show time I'm 79 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:49,860 sitting here working letting everybody 80 00:03:54,350 --> 00:03:51,360 know we got a little change of schedule 81 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:54,360 and speaking to Michelle uh you know my 82 00:04:01,550 --> 00:03:56,280 producer about rescheduling and stuff 83 00:04:09,649 --> 00:04:05,390 I found out that you live 84 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:09,659 um up in that crazy chain of islands uh 85 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:12,720 between Seattle and and Canada you know 86 00:04:17,390 --> 00:04:15,060 I guess you could call it uh well yeah 87 00:04:19,969 --> 00:04:17,400 Port Angeles is kind of like the last 88 00:04:22,670 --> 00:04:19,979 City up there uh and the next City Pass 89 00:04:25,129 --> 00:04:22,680 that's like Victoria right but between 90 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:25,139 that most people don't know there are 91 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:27,540 hundreds of islands hundreds there's 92 00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:31,860 over 200 Islands maybe 300 some are very 93 00:04:39,129 --> 00:04:35,400 small mostly aren't habited inhabited 94 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:39,139 but I'm I'm on one of the um well 95 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:42,479 medium-sized ones and and and they're 96 00:04:50,330 --> 00:04:45,120 called the San Juan Islands 97 00:04:53,450 --> 00:04:50,340 and and connected by it's got to be I I 98 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:53,460 I counted one time and ended up losing 99 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:56,100 count it's got to be hundreds of bridges 100 00:05:02,330 --> 00:04:59,120 right it's just like after another 101 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:02,340 hundreds and hundreds yeah it's such a 102 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:05,160 beautiful drive it's such uh an amazing 103 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:07,020 part of the country and that's where 104 00:05:11,510 --> 00:05:09,000 you're at and when the weather comes in 105 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:11,520 Mother Nature lets you know whose boss 106 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:15,180 doesn't she absolutely she does you know 107 00:05:18,890 --> 00:05:17,280 I look at these big trees that surround 108 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:18,900 me and I wonder which ones will come 109 00:05:23,930 --> 00:05:21,540 down so sometimes in the morning I go 110 00:05:26,510 --> 00:05:23,940 and I talk to them I say you don't fall 111 00:05:29,689 --> 00:05:26,520 on me and I won't fall on you 112 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:29,699 oh man I love trees I love trees that's 113 00:05:36,409 --> 00:05:32,400 a whole show we could do a whole show 114 00:05:39,710 --> 00:05:36,419 um on trees and uh the way you remember 115 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:39,720 the band Rush right oh yeah okay and the 116 00:05:48,110 --> 00:05:43,919 song trees uh by them and you go and you 117 00:05:50,810 --> 00:05:48,120 listen to the lyrics that Neil wrote for 118 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:50,820 that and and understand what's going on 119 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:53,280 and where we are today in the science of 120 00:05:58,969 --> 00:05:56,580 trees it's it's the Rush song it's it's 121 00:06:03,409 --> 00:05:58,979 actually true it sounds like science 122 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:03,419 fiction fantasy no no trees trees are 123 00:06:08,090 --> 00:06:05,520 about as smart as they get 124 00:06:10,490 --> 00:06:08,100 yes in their social and they communicate 125 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,500 and they assist each other and there's 126 00:06:14,930 --> 00:06:12,479 so much that we didn't know about 127 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:14,940 biology when I took it in school and 128 00:06:19,670 --> 00:06:17,520 nearly failed because I said no matter 129 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:19,680 what you do play the right music for 130 00:06:24,409 --> 00:06:22,560 your for your plants and and they were 131 00:06:25,309 --> 00:06:24,419 going to fail me on that on that term 132 00:06:28,610 --> 00:06:25,319 paper 133 00:06:31,309 --> 00:06:28,620 but you know now we know that they're 134 00:06:33,650 --> 00:06:31,319 very sensitive emotionally that they 135 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:33,660 have a Consciousness that we can't begin 136 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:36,840 to understand well maybe if you've read 137 00:06:41,689 --> 00:06:38,520 The Secret Life of plants you'll 138 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:41,699 understand it sure people have not 139 00:06:50,749 --> 00:06:46,680 I am uh it's about two years ago I I 140 00:06:53,090 --> 00:06:50,759 watched a documentary series on uh trees 141 00:06:55,309 --> 00:06:53,100 and their communities right yes and I 142 00:06:58,189 --> 00:06:55,319 was living up in Northern California in 143 00:07:00,830 --> 00:06:58,199 the Redwoods uh at the time and I was 144 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:00,840 fascinated with this but one of the 145 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:03,360 things that they pointed out all of it 146 00:07:08,029 --> 00:07:06,240 was amazing but but and do you already 147 00:07:10,969 --> 00:07:08,039 know this but maybe the audience has 148 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:10,979 never heard this I hadn't that 149 00:07:15,129 --> 00:07:13,199 if a tree 150 00:07:19,309 --> 00:07:15,139 or a plant 151 00:07:22,610 --> 00:07:19,319 needs vitamins a specific vitamin yeah 152 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:22,620 they send out a little signal and the 153 00:07:25,629 --> 00:07:24,720 trees get together and through the root 154 00:07:30,890 --> 00:07:25,639 system 155 00:07:32,029 --> 00:07:30,900 they send what that tree needs yeah and 156 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:32,039 that's that's that's that's that's 157 00:07:40,969 --> 00:07:36,960 insane yeah it's just incredible yeah 158 00:07:44,089 --> 00:07:40,979 it's it's so anyway like I said we could 159 00:07:45,850 --> 00:07:44,099 do a whole whole show on trees uh 160 00:07:49,790 --> 00:07:45,860 tonight it's time travel 161 00:07:51,370 --> 00:07:49,800 and uh to lay the groundwork 162 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:51,380 um on this 163 00:07:55,309 --> 00:07:53,940 they're in 164 00:07:57,650 --> 00:07:55,319 I 165 00:07:59,629 --> 00:07:57,660 there's probably 166 00:08:03,650 --> 00:07:59,639 50 different versions of time travel 167 00:08:06,290 --> 00:08:03,660 yeah and and that's going back to some 168 00:08:10,129 --> 00:08:06,300 of the things that Einstein started with 169 00:08:13,430 --> 00:08:10,139 in 1905 0708 uh you know 1915 and so 170 00:08:15,950 --> 00:08:13,440 forth we have that 171 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:15,960 um and then we have the variations that 172 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:18,240 come off of that and then we have the 173 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:21,120 ten thousand paradoxes that are in 174 00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:23,160 involved with that 175 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,879 um when you think of time travel 176 00:08:35,510 --> 00:08:28,400 what 177 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:35,520 important uh traditional versions of 178 00:08:42,469 --> 00:08:38,820 time travel well I I signed with the uh 179 00:08:44,290 --> 00:08:42,479 the Einstein theory I guess I I see 180 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:44,300 nothing wrong with it 181 00:08:51,170 --> 00:08:49,140 and also in addition to that I I know 182 00:08:54,050 --> 00:08:51,180 how he got to that because he was 183 00:08:56,750 --> 00:08:54,060 somewhat of a Mystic and he understood 184 00:09:00,170 --> 00:08:56,760 that that that there's he understood 185 00:09:03,230 --> 00:09:00,180 what we call the radiation field Theory 186 00:09:05,630 --> 00:09:03,240 where radiation in the form of light 187 00:09:08,990 --> 00:09:05,640 energy descends to the Earth 188 00:09:12,670 --> 00:09:09,000 how it impacts all of life how it Sparks 189 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:12,680 all of life how it initializes life 190 00:09:18,889 --> 00:09:17,100 how when it strikes you it it starts 191 00:09:21,410 --> 00:09:18,899 your day so to speak 192 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:21,420 so you know time and place space and 193 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:24,240 time or interconnected that it that we 194 00:09:28,130 --> 00:09:26,640 all perceive it differently based on our 195 00:09:30,730 --> 00:09:28,140 perception 196 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:30,740 I know that Einstein was a real 197 00:09:36,829 --> 00:09:34,560 occultist or or a Mystic because I know 198 00:09:40,190 --> 00:09:36,839 that he read the uh the secret Doctrine 199 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:40,200 written by Helena blavatsky and I know 200 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:43,200 this because I know that his private 201 00:09:50,570 --> 00:09:47,040 copy of the secret Doctrine uh was 202 00:09:55,310 --> 00:09:50,580 donated by his niece to the theosophical 203 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:55,320 library and eventually adyar California 204 00:10:03,110 --> 00:09:59,279 because he had made all these notations 205 00:10:05,630 --> 00:10:03,120 in the book and earmarked it and had it 206 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:05,640 right on his desk where he worked and 207 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:08,640 when he died she said oh my gosh maybe 208 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:10,920 they want this book back she just 209 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:13,260 thought it was the book right and she 210 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:15,120 said well it's kind of marked up but my 211 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:17,760 my uncle really liked it who is your 212 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:21,600 uncle uh Albert Einstein you probably 213 00:10:26,329 --> 00:10:23,760 heard of yes we've heard of him well 214 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:26,339 they were fascinated you know that he 215 00:10:31,550 --> 00:10:28,560 earmarked all these things that describe 216 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:31,560 how light and Consciousness descend to 217 00:10:38,290 --> 00:10:35,040 the Earth which actually emanates 218 00:10:41,269 --> 00:10:38,300 probably from the Hindu concept of 219 00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:41,279 Shakti and Shiva light and Consciousness 220 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:43,080 coming to the Earth 221 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:46,140 well he said it all starts with light 222 00:10:51,889 --> 00:10:48,720 yeah certainly certainly and with a guy 223 00:10:55,310 --> 00:10:51,899 like Einstein when I say like Einstein 224 00:10:57,829 --> 00:10:55,320 any great thinker uh physicist scientist 225 00:11:00,470 --> 00:10:57,839 inventor you only got to give them the 226 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:00,480 spark yeah right that's all you got to 227 00:11:05,690 --> 00:11:03,180 do and they can run with it and then I I 228 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:05,700 could see blavatsky 229 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:09,180 um and inspiring him and then all you 230 00:11:15,170 --> 00:11:12,360 have to do is is get the math to work 231 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:15,180 and and put a scientific mind behind it 232 00:11:20,090 --> 00:11:17,519 that that that's pretty much all great 233 00:11:22,610 --> 00:11:20,100 inventions but just bring up Star Trek 234 00:11:24,110 --> 00:11:22,620 right yeah yeah 235 00:11:26,630 --> 00:11:24,120 so 236 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:26,640 um now okay 237 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:29,040 we have 238 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:33,120 time machines HG Wells right that idea 239 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:35,760 where you're gonna step inside something 240 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:38,640 or use something mechanical punch in a 241 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:43,380 date and go uh we have that uh we have 242 00:11:49,790 --> 00:11:47,040 the physical side with not a time 243 00:11:52,610 --> 00:11:49,800 machine but you just leave the Earth at 244 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:52,620 the speed of light or close to it like 245 00:11:56,769 --> 00:11:54,120 the time turn around and come back and 246 00:11:58,970 --> 00:11:56,779 you're in the future in some cases 247 00:12:01,250 --> 00:11:58,980 depending on how fast and how long 248 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:01,260 you're gone it could be ten thousand 249 00:12:06,970 --> 00:12:03,180 years a million years in the future 250 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:06,980 right so we have that and then we have 251 00:12:15,949 --> 00:12:13,440 uh uh uh the mind and and and doing an 252 00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:15,959 astral type of time travel there's a 253 00:12:21,410 --> 00:12:19,620 visual time travel uh the glasses and 254 00:12:24,250 --> 00:12:21,420 and things like that where you're just a 255 00:12:27,230 --> 00:12:24,260 witness are all of those 256 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:27,240 the same right are they all just as 257 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:30,120 valid I think that there are different 258 00:12:34,670 --> 00:12:32,100 there are differences and I don't 259 00:12:35,930 --> 00:12:34,680 discount it any of them would be 260 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:35,940 possible 261 00:12:42,170 --> 00:12:39,240 uh the only one that I would discount 262 00:12:44,810 --> 00:12:42,180 is the idea of a machine that you could 263 00:12:47,569 --> 00:12:44,820 get in as much fun as it would be to get 264 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:47,579 it in a DeLorean Graham garbage down it 265 00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:50,160 and go you know into the future I don't 266 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:51,540 think that's going to happen I don't 267 00:12:55,009 --> 00:12:54,240 think HG Wells time machine is going to 268 00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:55,019 happen 269 00:13:00,350 --> 00:12:57,720 I I know people who've talked about the 270 00:13:03,889 --> 00:13:00,360 brain mind machine that could make maybe 271 00:13:05,389 --> 00:13:03,899 move you you know there are devices time 272 00:13:08,889 --> 00:13:05,399 machines 273 00:13:10,910 --> 00:13:08,899 the the point is that something physical 274 00:13:13,310 --> 00:13:10,920 cannot move at the speed of light 275 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:13,320 without turning into Pure Energy 276 00:13:17,870 --> 00:13:16,139 so then you have that problem but then 277 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:17,880 you have the the 278 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:21,180 you have the long history of what you 279 00:13:27,650 --> 00:13:24,180 call visualization or mind travel where 280 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:27,660 people who apparently do out-of-body 281 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:28,920 travel 282 00:13:34,250 --> 00:13:30,959 and that would include a lot of Eastern 283 00:13:36,530 --> 00:13:34,260 Mystics and I've studied them and they 284 00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:36,540 would include a lot of Western Mystics 285 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:40,200 like shamanic Vision Quest 286 00:13:47,150 --> 00:13:44,160 um uh shamans who do dream travel or 287 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:47,160 spirit Spirit Walkers Spirit Walkers or 288 00:13:53,930 --> 00:13:50,880 dreamwalkers and they travel and others 289 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:53,940 and they seem to actually move outside 290 00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:57,180 the body in a trance-like state and go 291 00:14:02,629 --> 00:14:00,240 somewhere and come back and I I lump all 292 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:02,639 of this together with remote viewing 293 00:14:09,050 --> 00:14:04,920 sure totally 294 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:09,060 and and now the question is it purely an 295 00:14:14,690 --> 00:14:12,600 astral travel or astral projection or is 296 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:14,700 it more is it more I would suggest it's 297 00:14:20,269 --> 00:14:17,220 more then you have the people who 298 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:20,279 actually will seem seemingly buy locate 299 00:14:25,129 --> 00:14:23,220 or they'll be here then you don't see 300 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:25,139 them in there somewhere else 301 00:14:31,190 --> 00:14:28,260 so they seem to physically move which 302 00:14:33,530 --> 00:14:31,200 would would actually discredit the 303 00:14:36,829 --> 00:14:33,540 notion that something physical can't 304 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:36,839 move through time since they beat moving 305 00:14:42,889 --> 00:14:40,560 at the speed of of light and then turn 306 00:14:46,670 --> 00:14:42,899 into Pure Energy according to Professor 307 00:14:49,370 --> 00:14:46,680 Einstein now I know and I know you know 308 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:49,380 Jimmy that there are good examples of 309 00:14:55,009 --> 00:14:52,320 people who have done that I've done that 310 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:55,019 and I can't explain to you exactly how 311 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:56,160 it's done 312 00:15:00,370 --> 00:14:59,279 but it's rare and and I don't think it's 313 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:00,380 teachable 314 00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:03,839 whereas uh out of body 315 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:07,620 Spirit uh time travel is teachable 316 00:15:12,350 --> 00:15:10,079 so I've concentrated on that because I 317 00:15:14,509 --> 00:15:12,360 know people want to time travel I want 318 00:15:17,870 --> 00:15:14,519 to try and travel and I enjoy time 319 00:15:18,889 --> 00:15:17,880 traveling but it's easier to do it out 320 00:15:21,470 --> 00:15:18,899 of body 321 00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:21,480 although it can be done 322 00:15:26,449 --> 00:15:23,880 actually through by location or 323 00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:26,459 relocation if you will 324 00:15:31,550 --> 00:15:29,279 and all I can think of is thinking back 325 00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:31,560 of my own experience in the ones I've 326 00:15:36,110 --> 00:15:33,540 heard about and read about 327 00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:36,120 as far as the body by locating or 328 00:15:41,090 --> 00:15:37,440 relocating 329 00:15:43,069 --> 00:15:41,100 is that there is at some point I used to 330 00:15:45,530 --> 00:15:43,079 say there's a little black hole inside 331 00:15:46,670 --> 00:15:45,540 every one of our heads but it's more 332 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:46,680 than that 333 00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:49,680 I think that we have the ability 334 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:52,800 we have the inherent ability 335 00:15:57,949 --> 00:15:56,399 to actually turn our bodies 336 00:16:01,550 --> 00:15:57,959 into 337 00:16:05,210 --> 00:16:01,560 energy and move somewhere and relocate 338 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:05,220 no it I mean I can't describe that other 339 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:07,199 than I'm sure all of your guests have 340 00:16:13,009 --> 00:16:10,500 seen the TV show in the movie Star Trek 341 00:16:15,949 --> 00:16:13,019 and they go into a machine and then it 342 00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:15,959 it takes all of their their atoms and 343 00:16:20,509 --> 00:16:18,180 and moves them somewhere else 344 00:16:21,530 --> 00:16:20,519 and imagine if you could do that with 345 00:16:23,870 --> 00:16:21,540 your mind 346 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:23,880 and I think it's possible probably to do 347 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:25,980 that with your mind I don't generally 348 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:27,720 talk about that when I'm interviewed 349 00:16:32,449 --> 00:16:30,600 about time travel because it's really 350 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:32,459 hard to control and there are very few 351 00:16:37,370 --> 00:16:35,040 cases that have ever been well 352 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:37,380 documented 353 00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:40,620 um so that you could teach it 354 00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:43,199 why is it 355 00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:45,660 so damn romantic 356 00:16:53,090 --> 00:16:50,240 right we all fantasize about it 357 00:16:57,650 --> 00:16:53,100 yeah whether it's to the Future to the 358 00:16:59,689 --> 00:16:57,660 past past love uh you want you want to 359 00:17:02,090 --> 00:16:59,699 go back and and maybe get an A in 360 00:17:05,569 --> 00:17:02,100 algebra because you failed it like I did 361 00:17:07,789 --> 00:17:05,579 or you know whatever it is you know go 362 00:17:12,409 --> 00:17:07,799 back in time and be the best guitar 363 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:12,419 player or it's it's just and it's been 364 00:17:19,130 --> 00:17:15,439 written about and dreamed about and 365 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:19,140 handed down for Millennia why is it so 366 00:17:24,890 --> 00:17:22,079 romantic well I guess I wrote my first 367 00:17:28,669 --> 00:17:24,900 four books on time travel on that 368 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:28,679 perfect timing looked at why people like 369 00:17:35,450 --> 00:17:31,440 to look as a progression of time always 370 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:35,460 moving forward we we have this idea that 371 00:17:39,950 --> 00:17:37,140 we're always moving forward and 372 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:39,960 progressing and it's it's been argued 373 00:17:44,810 --> 00:17:41,820 that really we don't have that much 374 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,820 movement it's just in our heads you know 375 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:47,039 it's like you know we don't have a 376 00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:50,280 continuity of movement we're like a lot 377 00:17:54,830 --> 00:17:53,220 of still shots think back to like when 378 00:17:57,049 --> 00:17:54,840 we did like 379 00:17:59,450 --> 00:17:57,059 um instant cameras right you know you 380 00:18:01,789 --> 00:17:59,460 snapshot cameras and you point your 381 00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:01,799 little brownie camera or whatever your 382 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,020 Kodak and you pointed at something snap 383 00:18:09,169 --> 00:18:06,720 snap they were all individual snapshots 384 00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:09,179 and then in our heads we play them all 385 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:10,260 together 386 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:13,140 and and moreover that's what what our 387 00:18:18,590 --> 00:18:16,140 lives are we're a series of moments or 388 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:18,600 instance and I'm going back to Einstein 389 00:18:23,930 --> 00:18:21,120 purposely here he talked about instance 390 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:23,940 there are many many instances in every 391 00:18:31,370 --> 00:18:28,080 instant is powerful and every instant is 392 00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:31,380 now moreover there are multiple Nows 393 00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:34,440 there's a now that's in the future and 394 00:18:38,270 --> 00:18:36,299 in the distant future and in the past 395 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:38,280 and the distant past and then there's 396 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:40,980 the now that we call here and now but 397 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:44,220 we're only focused on the ground in 398 00:18:50,029 --> 00:18:47,580 front of us and and what our eyes and 399 00:18:53,690 --> 00:18:50,039 ears and other five 400 00:18:55,970 --> 00:18:53,700 census can physically detect that's the 401 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:55,980 limitation of our three-dimensional 402 00:19:03,110 --> 00:18:59,760 world we are linear thinkers but we long 403 00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:03,120 to be more we long to have 404 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:05,940 um progression of a never-ending life 405 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:08,940 that goes on and on and on without 406 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,780 ending and and I think that 407 00:19:18,529 --> 00:19:15,360 to your question Jimmy I think that 408 00:19:21,169 --> 00:19:18,539 people are in love with the idea that 409 00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:21,179 the the Journey of their life goes on 410 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:23,640 forever and if you believe in time 411 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:26,880 travel it absolutely does it absolutely 412 00:19:32,270 --> 00:19:29,880 does so that now when I look at like 413 00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:32,280 lucid dreaming and I look at past lives 414 00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:34,500 and I look at you know Consciousness 415 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:37,679 development and energy healing and and 416 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:41,039 moreover I like to look at the at the uh 417 00:19:46,190 --> 00:19:43,860 the heroes the Ark of the heroes Journey 418 00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,200 because I think each one of us are 419 00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:48,559 living life that could be heroic 420 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,320 unleashing a champion inside of us that 421 00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:54,960 every one of us is part of a 422 00:20:00,830 --> 00:19:56,460 never-ending story 423 00:20:03,650 --> 00:20:00,840 it just doesn't go for 70 80 90 years 424 00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:03,660 turn to black and that's that so you 425 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,120 don't have to think oh I need to hop a 426 00:20:12,289 --> 00:20:08,640 ride to move into the future or into the 427 00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:12,299 past because you know my life is so 428 00:20:18,049 --> 00:20:15,059 boxed in it's so limited we have a sense 429 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:18,059 of being limited and boxed in that 430 00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:25,490 everybody when I say everybody I'm 431 00:20:34,610 --> 00:20:29,539 saying that Loosely but most 432 00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:34,620 fantasize about needing to go back and 433 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:36,539 fix something and if they went back and 434 00:20:41,330 --> 00:20:38,940 fixed that one little thing then life 435 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:41,340 would have been perfect yeah I'm going 436 00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:43,440 to pose that question to you because 437 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:45,720 I'll tell you what my answer is I 438 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:48,320 wouldn't change a thing that's me 439 00:20:55,549 --> 00:20:52,640 what would you change if anything 440 00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:55,559 ah so many things but you know I think 441 00:21:01,370 --> 00:20:58,320 ultimately I'd be like you and say no 442 00:21:03,409 --> 00:21:01,380 leave it alone leave it alone because 443 00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:03,419 every every step you took got you to 444 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:05,700 where you are you know that's exactly 445 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:08,640 yeah that's exactly it if you change one 446 00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:10,380 little thing right the butterfly effect 447 00:21:16,430 --> 00:21:13,799 yeah my children are born I don't want 448 00:21:19,130 --> 00:21:16,440 to change that yeah you know what I mean 449 00:21:21,289 --> 00:21:19,140 no no no no no no I wouldn't change a 450 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:21,299 thing but I would like to go back and 451 00:21:27,770 --> 00:21:25,860 observe a few things yes that's that's 452 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:27,780 it that's the key you want to go back to 453 00:21:33,370 --> 00:21:30,960 observe I always enjoyed the old books 454 00:21:36,169 --> 00:21:33,380 of Carlos castanada 455 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:36,179 because he talked about being a perfect 456 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:39,000 Observer a perfect witness and I thought 457 00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:42,240 golly sakes that's what we really are we 458 00:21:48,409 --> 00:21:45,720 all are so obsessed with our own um you 459 00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:48,419 know our own coffee or and our own image 460 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:52,020 and our own perfection in the making get 461 00:21:57,230 --> 00:21:54,780 get over it and get out of you out of 462 00:22:00,350 --> 00:21:57,240 your way because we're really here as 463 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:00,360 observers every one of us I think I 464 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:04,080 think that people forget that the real 465 00:22:11,090 --> 00:22:09,120 payoff is in observing and learning that 466 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:11,100 that that's it because there is no 467 00:22:15,289 --> 00:22:12,840 Perfection you can't go back and fix it 468 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,299 you can't go back and fix it because you 469 00:22:20,930 --> 00:22:17,360 can't touch that you have no physical 470 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,940 you have no traction back there you 471 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:23,039 can't go back there and do it you can't 472 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:25,620 go back with a gun and shoot Hitler you 473 00:22:29,810 --> 00:22:27,480 can't go back and make up to the girl 474 00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,820 that you let get away none of this can 475 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,740 happen you know you would like to think 476 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:34,320 so but and and there there would be some 477 00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:37,140 like energy exchange if you went back in 478 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:40,620 the past and you can you can and you can 479 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:42,600 observe these things 480 00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:44,880 you might not be able to interact with 481 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:47,940 them but even even if you could even if 482 00:22:52,610 --> 00:22:51,240 you could at best you would like you 483 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:52,620 would like give 484 00:22:58,970 --> 00:22:56,760 energy you would give pure emotional 485 00:23:02,930 --> 00:22:58,980 conscious energy 486 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:02,940 to that person or those people 487 00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:06,240 and the benefit would come forward to 488 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:08,820 you in this lifetime so a lot of people 489 00:23:13,490 --> 00:23:11,520 I say yeah I hear from they want to go 490 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:13,500 back and they want to fix what make that 491 00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:17,280 make made them sick or made them weak in 492 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,320 their current life 493 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,120 and you can go back and you can give 494 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,039 energy to that person you can hold their 495 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,440 hand you could comfort them 496 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:27,840 they might not notice you but but you 497 00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:30,240 could do it and 498 00:23:35,149 --> 00:23:32,820 there would be some benefit but it would 499 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:35,159 come back to you right now and the 500 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:38,880 benefit is that you've you've observed 501 00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:41,760 and you've absorbed the information 502 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:46,620 because ultimately time is opportunity 503 00:23:52,730 --> 00:23:50,400 it truly is it truly is every time 504 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:52,740 um and I pose this question I've done 505 00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:55,980 you know thousands of shows and I posed 506 00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:57,539 this question all the time with guests 507 00:24:02,810 --> 00:24:00,960 because I I think it's it's valid 508 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:02,820 interesting and fun 509 00:24:08,690 --> 00:24:06,720 and so when I ask a guest it doesn't 510 00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:08,700 matter their background but if they 511 00:24:11,090 --> 00:24:09,960 could go back and tell what would they 512 00:24:13,490 --> 00:24:11,100 want to see 513 00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:13,500 if you know what how many times I've 514 00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:19,909 I mean you know maybe three times you 515 00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:21,299 know what everybody wants to see the 516 00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:23,700 pyramids get built including me by the 517 00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:27,240 way it's uh it's really strange uh what 518 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:28,799 would you like to observe if you could 519 00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:31,500 go back I thought of a few things uh one 520 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:34,980 was I would like to watch Archimedes and 521 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:35,850 study him 522 00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:38,520 [Laughter] 523 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:40,260 I would like to spend day with 524 00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:43,860 Pythagoras if I could understand him 525 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:46,500 I would I would like to go to a concert 526 00:24:50,930 --> 00:24:48,840 with list and watch his huge fingers 527 00:24:53,210 --> 00:24:50,940 dance across the keyboard right right 528 00:24:58,010 --> 00:24:53,220 right that would be fun wasn't it 529 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,020 Archimedes uh uh when the Romans invaded 530 00:25:02,110 --> 00:25:00,240 uh they crashed down the front door of 531 00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:02,120 his house and caught him in the bathtub 532 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:05,460 yeah yeah I I would like to see that 533 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:06,480 scene 534 00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:13,669 good answer yeah yeah Archimedes didn't 535 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:16,020 reach for a sword you know in that case 536 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:19,140 math didn't wasn't really a good defense 537 00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:21,720 against a uh you know a Roman Centurion 538 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:26,820 but um I just I kid I kid but yeah yeah 539 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:30,720 Archimedes him with the uh antikythera 540 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:33,240 mechanism how did how did he dream that 541 00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:36,480 thing up and and how was that built uh 542 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,580 yeah Socrates would be good too as well 543 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,520 though you know these are really 544 00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,640 Geniuses yeah yeah yeah you know and 545 00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:46,799 just to observe them I mean it would be 546 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:49,500 way over my head but just to watch them 547 00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,269 hanging out with Elvis might be pretty 548 00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:58,320 cool though I mean that might be cool 549 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,500 yeah yeah but see it's that romantic 550 00:26:06,529 --> 00:26:04,320 side of it you know and and and we can't 551 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,539 get away from it okay so now 552 00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:08,880 we're laying the glass or groundwork for 553 00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:10,740 some very important conversation that 554 00:26:15,529 --> 00:26:12,600 we're going to be having tonight because 555 00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:15,539 then there's this other aspect of time 556 00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:16,440 travel 557 00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:20,039 where I think it's accidental 558 00:26:26,269 --> 00:26:23,059 you walk through it You observe it 559 00:26:27,769 --> 00:26:26,279 somebody else is time traveling and you 560 00:26:30,649 --> 00:26:27,779 happen to be at the right place at the 561 00:26:32,269 --> 00:26:30,659 right time and you have a WTF moment 562 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:32,279 right where you don't understand what's 563 00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:34,080 going on yeah 564 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,980 um is that do you feel and we can call 565 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:40,320 that Time Slips or vortexes or whatever 566 00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:43,460 we'll get into that but do you feel that 567 00:26:50,350 --> 00:26:47,580 those are examples of an accident from 568 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:50,360 the other side from the time travelers 569 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:54,960 or that they are actually time traveling 570 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,320 and we are observing it well Jimmy I I 571 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:00,320 think that a lot of people time travel 572 00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:03,720 now and then accidentally and they don't 573 00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:05,460 realize it you know I think it's 574 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:08,100 possible to lie on your sofa and have a 575 00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:10,380 Daydream and you have a flashback where 576 00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:12,419 you're somewhere else and it's so real 577 00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:15,900 it's so real it's like um it's like a a 578 00:27:21,649 --> 00:27:18,600 lucid dream and it just pops into your 579 00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:21,659 head you know and you're like in your in 580 00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:24,539 your you're living a past life perhaps 581 00:27:30,769 --> 00:27:27,659 this happens to a lot of people and and 582 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,779 moreover people stand up and they'll say 583 00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:33,600 oh my gosh he said that was crazy where 584 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:35,220 did that come from it was you know 585 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:38,400 they'll think it's delusional it's it's 586 00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:41,520 uh it's purely imaginative 587 00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:47,340 uh that it was um you know not real 588 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:49,380 and yet I think this happens to people 589 00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:51,480 all the time you know like deja vu 590 00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:53,400 moments happen to people all the time 591 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,620 and they can't explain it they can't 592 00:28:01,370 --> 00:27:58,799 explain it so I've you know the last 593 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,380 book I wrote was was time shifts and 594 00:28:07,370 --> 00:28:04,320 what I wanted to do was to show how many 595 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,380 people actually do have a time slip 596 00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:09,600 where they'll just and to answer your 597 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:11,880 question I think they do it unto 598 00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:15,840 themselves but unwittingly unwittingly 599 00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:18,539 and they'll be walking along and they'll 600 00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:21,779 find I think is what is like a you know 601 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:25,140 a Vortex or or a portal and I I tend to 602 00:28:30,769 --> 00:28:28,140 think that these are like energy tears 603 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:30,779 in the earth they're like energy 604 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:33,960 um little areas that like I live in a 605 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:37,740 place where you cannot use uh uh your um 606 00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:41,520 uh you can't tell which is North and 607 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:43,740 which is South when you're sailing your 608 00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:46,799 your boat because there is a magnetic 609 00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,380 anomaly and I think there are a lot of 610 00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:51,919 people a lot of places where they're 611 00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:56,100 electromagnetic anomalies and and and I 612 00:28:59,450 --> 00:28:58,020 don't know how they happen I have no 613 00:29:01,789 --> 00:28:59,460 idea how they happened somebody will 614 00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:01,799 figure it out but you know there are 615 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:04,919 places where these things happen a lot I 616 00:29:11,149 --> 00:29:07,380 mean consider the Bermuda Triangle 617 00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:11,159 happens a lot you know and and there are 618 00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:13,260 various people in and they're not all 619 00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:15,900 crazy you know a lot of them just have 620 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:18,539 these experiences they can't explain it 621 00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:20,100 you know and this happened to me when I 622 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:22,440 was a young boy they can't explain these 623 00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:25,140 experiences so they say nothing about it 624 00:29:29,389 --> 00:29:26,580 to anybody 625 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:29,399 you know maybe forever or for a long 626 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:30,480 long time 627 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,320 and and I I think that I think that Time 628 00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:36,720 Slips happen all the time to Everyday 629 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:38,340 People 630 00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:41,039 what's the difference what's the 631 00:29:48,649 --> 00:29:43,320 difference between the time shift and a 632 00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:48,659 time slip uh well I I've chosen to 633 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,140 look at the people who accidentally 634 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:55,200 take us sideways slip into time as Time 635 00:29:58,970 --> 00:29:56,520 Slips 636 00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:58,980 that they they had not planned it or 637 00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,039 programmed it whereas some people seem 638 00:30:06,769 --> 00:30:04,559 to be really good at setting up little 639 00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:06,779 shifts in time and they're able to 640 00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:10,500 actually uh experience it a shift in 641 00:30:15,289 --> 00:30:11,940 time 642 00:30:18,409 --> 00:30:15,299 um by by planning with forethought 643 00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:18,419 so they're not accidental but they're 644 00:30:23,210 --> 00:30:21,000 essentially the same okay 645 00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:23,220 um I'm gonna give you three short 646 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,320 examples I'm not going to get into the 647 00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:27,720 details because the stories are long and 648 00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:30,539 drawn out and quite frankly boring I've 649 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:32,700 told them too many times but 650 00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:35,940 here's some examples I'm eight years old 651 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,640 a true story 652 00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:40,799 I'm out in front of our apartment in 653 00:30:48,529 --> 00:30:44,220 Chicago I I see something in the sky I 654 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:48,539 look up and I see the Hindenburg 655 00:30:54,590 --> 00:30:52,320 this is 1970. rigidaire not the Goodyear 656 00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:54,600 blimp you know 657 00:31:00,769 --> 00:30:58,440 a Zeppelin and I chase it across 658 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:00,779 the playground and I watch this thing 659 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:04,559 for five minutes low I see the dudes in 660 00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:08,399 the gondola right count the engines 661 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:11,460 I find out later a couple of years ago 662 00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:14,640 as I'm doing research that there haven't 663 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:19,740 been any Zeppelins on planet Earth 664 00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:23,039 since the Hindenburg crash right yeah 665 00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:26,220 anywhere that's it right the rigid 666 00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:30,299 airships ended blimps sure now wait a 667 00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:31,380 minute 668 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:33,480 what did I see 669 00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:37,740 yeah so is that a time slip are those 670 00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:40,799 Time Travelers or did I step into it 671 00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:44,580 packs oh by the way my atmosphere around 672 00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:47,880 me didn't change I wasn't back in 1937 673 00:31:54,049 --> 00:31:51,419 right and everything yeah yeah yeah 674 00:31:56,990 --> 00:31:54,059 yeah I think that there are time 675 00:31:58,970 --> 00:31:57,000 convergences that happen and and I've 676 00:32:00,590 --> 00:31:58,980 experienced some of that myself when I 677 00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:00,600 lived on Mount Hood in Oregon I 678 00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:03,360 experienced time convergences where I 679 00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:05,340 would actually sometimes see Pioneers 680 00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:08,220 you know resting against their their old 681 00:32:12,649 --> 00:32:09,960 wagons as they were coming over the 682 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:12,659 mountains I would see settlers Old 683 00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:15,840 Settlers with old handmade pitchforks 684 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:18,480 and shovels coming out of the barn and 685 00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:20,760 it would almost seem that they would 686 00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:23,880 happen at a certain time of the day of 687 00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:25,980 course it would happen at a certain time 688 00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:28,500 of the year usually in the fall or late 689 00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:32,700 summer or toward dusk and moreover it 690 00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:36,059 happens to people like me and perhaps 691 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:39,480 like you that are in a very quiet place 692 00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:41,580 in in 693 00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:43,559 they're not enter you know they're not 694 00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:46,399 with other people they're alone 695 00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:48,120 they're very 696 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:49,020 um 697 00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:52,860 they go inside themselves they're they 698 00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:55,620 experience a shift in consciousness 699 00:32:59,570 --> 00:32:57,960 they get very quiet they go deep within 700 00:33:02,029 --> 00:32:59,580 themselves and they experience the shift 701 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,039 in Consciousness I think that there's 702 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,559 something deep within us you can call it 703 00:33:10,010 --> 00:33:07,679 your spirit or your your inner self or 704 00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:10,020 your higher self or you can call it your 705 00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:12,360 your Consciousness if you will but I 706 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:13,860 think there's something deep within us 707 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:16,320 that understands all of this it 708 00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:18,480 understands the past and understands the 709 00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:20,820 future it understands you better than 710 00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:23,700 than you that you think you do and and 711 00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:26,700 it knows all of this and and it actually 712 00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:30,059 will open up the opportunity to see this 713 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,059 now this explains a lot of things it's 714 00:33:36,889 --> 00:33:35,279 convergence of time it could explain 715 00:33:39,289 --> 00:33:36,899 ghosts 716 00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:39,299 it could explain aliens 717 00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:43,320 it could explain how uh civilizations of 718 00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:45,240 the Past come 719 00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:48,539 forward to speak to us or perhaps 720 00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:50,580 civilizations from the Future come back 721 00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:53,760 to speak to us I think that there are 722 00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:56,580 time convergences happening here and 723 00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,580 there all the time 724 00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:02,159 I was eight years old so I wasn't deep 725 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:03,779 in Consciousness I was thinking about 726 00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:06,360 making mud pies in the sandbox right but 727 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:08,040 you but you were very quiet and you were 728 00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:11,760 all alone right yeah I was now it was so 729 00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:13,740 interesting that you said that and and 730 00:34:18,829 --> 00:34:16,919 then when you uh spoke about your own 731 00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,839 experiences with the pioneers right the 732 00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:20,879 covered wax yeah yeah yeah I had a 733 00:34:27,770 --> 00:34:24,060 caller uh 10 years ago 734 00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:27,780 and uh she calls in open lines and she 735 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,119 tells the story just like that she was 736 00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:32,639 traveling with her family 737 00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:35,879 um station wagon right 70s and they 738 00:34:38,889 --> 00:34:38,040 pulled over at a rest stop somewhere in 739 00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:38,899 Texas 740 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:42,300 and picnic table and so they're setting 741 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:45,839 up for lunch she wanders off and she 742 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,060 comes up on this River and there's this 743 00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:50,460 sign 744 00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,200 um thing marking the spot of the river 745 00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:54,000 and she's reading that and said this is 746 00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:57,540 where the wagon trains would come across 747 00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:00,240 from the East Coast as settlers heading 748 00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:02,820 to the west and she's she's reading that 749 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:05,400 she looks across the river she's a young 750 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:07,140 girl she lives across the river there's 751 00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:11,040 a wagon crate yeah she sees dogs kids 752 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:15,359 playing fire smoke things right a wagon 753 00:35:20,990 --> 00:35:18,060 train horses she runs back and she 754 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,000 thinks she's seeing actors yeah she runs 755 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:23,040 back you got to see this man so they're 756 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,220 doing this thing over here it's amazing 757 00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:28,079 and she goes back with and they're gone 758 00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:30,300 yeah 759 00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:37,740 interviewed a number of people for time 760 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,500 shifts that have similar experiences you 761 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,200 know as well at uh Rock Lake in 762 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,839 Wisconsin and there was a there was a 763 00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:48,240 boy that went to hear uh Lincoln speak 764 00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,180 and and they and then he Lincoln was 765 00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:53,040 really there and then he was disappeared 766 00:35:57,230 --> 00:35:55,560 then he disappeared and then he was the 767 00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:57,240 boy was told there was nobody here 768 00:36:03,589 --> 00:35:59,160 disguised 769 00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:03,599 and acting as Lincoln you know I mean it 770 00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:06,180 they they have these things happen to 771 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:09,480 people and generally nobody believes 772 00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:11,880 them or they or they find it so 773 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:14,520 unbelievable that they themselves never 774 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:17,040 tell the story 775 00:36:22,270 --> 00:36:20,940 yeah you know my Hindenburg thing yeah I 776 00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:22,280 debated 777 00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:25,020 uh talking about that in public I really 778 00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:27,300 did you know yes Jimmy that's the 779 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:29,400 craziest that man that's just a bunch of 780 00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:33,240 BS it doesn't change my experience no 781 00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:36,540 let me tell you something Vaughn when I 782 00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:38,820 did the Google search this is all I did 783 00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:42,300 yeah what what I I thought it was the 784 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:44,280 U.S Navy or something right yeah yeah 785 00:36:51,370 --> 00:36:47,820 that's what I'm thinking U.S Navy uh 786 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:51,380 Zeppelin uh Chicago 787 00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:55,140 1971. just to see what was there that's 788 00:37:02,210 --> 00:36:58,560 all hoping the USS Los Angeles or 789 00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:02,220 whatever you yeah and I re when I read 790 00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:05,460 that that there were no Zeppelins or 791 00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:10,260 rigidaire ships since 1938. yeah uh I 792 00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:14,040 anywhere in the world any country I sat 793 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:16,920 back and went okay I've got an issue 794 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:18,780 here I've gotta I got I've got to work 795 00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:21,599 through this it was a very strange 796 00:37:27,650 --> 00:37:24,780 surreal feeling because reading that 797 00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:27,660 didn't change my experience no 798 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:30,119 and I think it's legitimate too in that 799 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:32,460 these experiences happen to young people 800 00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:35,520 like you because you have no frame of 801 00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:38,940 reference you have no you have you have 802 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:40,920 no knowledge of how many Zeppelins were 803 00:37:45,170 --> 00:37:43,140 ever built you know for all you you know 804 00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:45,180 that they they they're building them 805 00:37:50,089 --> 00:37:47,700 every day you know and and so and so 806 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:50,099 your your mind's wide open you know 807 00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:52,440 you're you're a sponge you see what you 808 00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:55,740 see you your eyes are wide open to see 809 00:38:02,270 --> 00:37:59,700 what what's there and and there's no 810 00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:02,280 there's no filter from no cultural 811 00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:05,640 filter or or no damper on anything that 812 00:38:08,810 --> 00:38:06,920 you're seeing 813 00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:08,820 okay 814 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:10,500 so 815 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:13,980 future is real we're living the future 816 00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:16,200 right now right yeah and I was talking 817 00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:18,300 by nanosecond we are Time Travelers 818 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:21,720 that's right we know right here's the 819 00:38:27,710 --> 00:38:24,420 now now and oh ah we just time travel 820 00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:27,720 that's right but 821 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:30,900 if the future is accessible and 822 00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:34,140 certainly the Deep future yeah we know 823 00:38:38,829 --> 00:38:36,420 that Einstein said uh going back to the 824 00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:38,839 past that's a little more difficult 825 00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:41,940 possible maybe but going to the Future 826 00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:45,300 was easy wouldn't the future have 827 00:38:50,450 --> 00:38:47,359 figured out time travel 828 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:50,460 and because if you and I jumped on a 829 00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:51,540 Starship 830 00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:55,440 and and went out and we come back and 831 00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:57,720 Vaughn and Jimmy are 10 000 years in the 832 00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,300 future and we come back and we go okay 833 00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:03,119 man we're from a 2023 can you get us 834 00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:05,940 back yeah sure we can yeah time travel 835 00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:09,300 and we come what he's he understands 836 00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:10,920 what I'm saying 837 00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:13,500 where is everybody 838 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,380 well I I think that I think it happens I 839 00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:18,480 think that there there's every 840 00:39:24,349 --> 00:39:20,280 possibility 841 00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:24,359 that the aliens that we're seeing yes uh 842 00:39:29,690 --> 00:39:26,940 are are from the future and and I I know 843 00:39:31,849 --> 00:39:29,700 a lot of people have have reported like 844 00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:31,859 you know Aztecs from the past you know 845 00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:35,940 and I I think that I think that it is 846 00:39:41,329 --> 00:39:37,500 possible 847 00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:41,339 that we're that we're not fully 848 00:39:47,569 --> 00:39:43,619 appreciating 849 00:39:50,030 --> 00:39:47,579 the potential the potential we have I 850 00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:50,040 think of it this way that that the time 851 00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,119 is like is like a conveyor belt and you 852 00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:56,880 can hop on anytime and go anywhere you 853 00:40:01,250 --> 00:39:59,579 want and then you hop off you're in a 854 00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:01,260 different place but you can hop right 855 00:40:05,089 --> 00:40:03,240 back on and eventually it'll take you 856 00:40:08,270 --> 00:40:05,099 back where you are because ultimately 857 00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,280 time is circular it it it goes not just 858 00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:10,440 in One Direction but it can curve back 859 00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:11,880 on itself 860 00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:14,760 well space is curved it's got to be that 861 00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:18,359 way so so so so so 862 00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:22,260 I I think that we only think of the here 863 00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:26,160 and now as as as the ground in front of 864 00:40:28,430 --> 00:40:26,940 us 865 00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:28,440 as being 866 00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:32,220 our limitation we're living inside a box 867 00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:34,020 basically 868 00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:36,900 and we can't think Beyond The Box 869 00:40:41,329 --> 00:40:40,020 and all we have to do is Alter our 870 00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,339 perception 871 00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:44,400 of the limitations that are around us 872 00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,980 and see the possibility of being 873 00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:48,720 somewhere else 874 00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:51,480 and in another time and when that 875 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,220 happens you're going to have the most 876 00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,960 lucid dreams you've ever had in your 877 00:40:58,910 --> 00:40:56,880 life and they're going to be profound 878 00:41:01,490 --> 00:40:58,920 and they're going to take you into the 879 00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:01,500 path into the future and into alternate 880 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,540 realities that you've never thought 881 00:41:11,329 --> 00:41:05,040 possible 882 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:11,339 I'm going to ask you a couple of uh the 883 00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,380 kind of fundamental questions but it's 884 00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:15,599 but things that have bothered me for a 885 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:16,440 long time 886 00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:19,800 I feel that there are some historical 887 00:41:25,010 --> 00:41:22,680 figures from the past 888 00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,020 that were Time Travelers they saw the 889 00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:27,599 future oh yeah and they applied it I 890 00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:31,740 think Leonardo da Vinci 100 percent 891 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,339 went to the Future saw some stuff 892 00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,640 came back and and did his best right 893 00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:40,880 what's up yep yep yep 894 00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:44,700 am I crazy for thinking no no I mean how 895 00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,859 could he come up with this you know in 896 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:49,680 Saint germain's another one yes a 897 00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:53,040 hundred percent 100 so these people you 898 00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:55,560 know all the time we're finding that all 899 00:42:00,349 --> 00:41:57,720 the time but occasionally we're fighting 900 00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:00,359 artifacts usually in the ocean that we 901 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,280 can't explain they're so futuristic 902 00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:04,560 there are medals and designs and 903 00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:07,560 cuttings and etchings that nobody can 904 00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:09,119 understand 905 00:42:20,050 --> 00:42:16,569 Jimi Hendrix time traveler 906 00:42:22,450 --> 00:42:20,060 he was way out there yeah he was one 907 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:22,460 good Seattle oh boy 908 00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:25,500 I think that Hendricks guy I think he 909 00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:26,940 was a time traveler 910 00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:28,440 um now what about some of the more 911 00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:31,859 famous cases uh and then what I want to 912 00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:35,099 get to uh the ability uh to practice 913 00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:37,020 some of this stuff 914 00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:39,859 um but uh what about John Teeter 915 00:42:46,270 --> 00:42:43,260 uh John Teeter uh 916 00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:46,280 oh okay 917 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:49,560 yeah okay I'll help you out here okay 918 00:42:55,250 --> 00:42:51,540 John Teeter 919 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:55,260 was a time traveler that appeared on the 920 00:42:59,290 --> 00:42:56,520 internet 921 00:43:03,410 --> 00:42:59,300 um originally sent art Bella facts in 922 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,420 1999. and then he showed up on the time 923 00:43:09,290 --> 00:43:05,520 travel institute's 924 00:43:10,970 --> 00:43:09,300 um form and he was on the coast to coast 925 00:43:14,329 --> 00:43:10,980 form 926 00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:14,339 he's he's posting photographs of his 927 00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:17,780 time machine he's posting uh schematics 928 00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:22,260 uh some very interesting things and then 929 00:43:27,010 --> 00:43:25,500 he said well you know I'll answer any 930 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:27,020 question 931 00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:31,200 sure and he he it was pretty elegant I'm 932 00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,660 telling you I believe that John Teeter 933 00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:35,520 was real but 934 00:43:41,809 --> 00:43:38,700 um and then one day he did his last pose 935 00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:41,819 he said man I gotta go back and uh he's 936 00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:45,780 from 2037. yeah that's not so far yeah 937 00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:46,920 yeah yeah 938 00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:48,599 um so what do you think about some of 939 00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:50,760 these uh claims 940 00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:53,940 from historical time travelers Da Vinci 941 00:43:58,089 --> 00:43:55,560 never said he was a time traveler but 942 00:44:01,849 --> 00:43:58,099 we've got no no well there's been some 943 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:01,859 well-documented ones uh there was one in 944 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:04,680 um uh there were the three Cadets in 945 00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:07,680 Kersey and and that that was study for 946 00:44:12,530 --> 00:44:10,200 years and years and years of the three 947 00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,540 boys that went into an Anglo-Saxon 948 00:44:17,569 --> 00:44:15,119 Village in the Middle Ages 949 00:44:19,609 --> 00:44:17,579 and then when they went back it wasn't 950 00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:19,619 that way but they described it in great 951 00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:21,960 detail the way it actually was in the 952 00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:23,460 15th century 953 00:44:27,950 --> 00:44:25,560 you know and and 954 00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:27,960 um there's Rudolph fence of course you 955 00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,140 know he was a man who uh who was all 956 00:44:36,849 --> 00:44:33,839 dressed up real like a real Dandy you 957 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:36,859 know a hi-hat and a 958 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,599 mustache and and he was from 959 00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:41,760 Philadelphia but suddenly he found 960 00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:44,520 himself on the streets of New York in 961 00:44:49,210 --> 00:44:47,400 1950 and he's hit by a car and 962 00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:49,220 everything in his identification 963 00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:52,920 indicated he he lived in an earlier time 964 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,300 that was well documented you know 965 00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:00,720 um let's see there was the 966 00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:04,260 there were the uh the case of course of 967 00:45:11,089 --> 00:45:06,839 uh uh 968 00:45:14,270 --> 00:45:11,099 oh uh air marshal uh Victor Goddard uh 969 00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:14,280 he was uh in the British royal Air Force 970 00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:17,460 in 1935 and he flew over Edinburgh 971 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:19,079 Airfield 972 00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:22,200 yeah a storm had passed over 973 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,599 and he's looking down at these planes 974 00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,160 and they're the wrong color and they're 975 00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,040 the wrong shape and the ground crew is 976 00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:31,440 wearing he's wearing you know blue 977 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:34,140 overalls and none of this makes any 978 00:45:37,250 --> 00:45:35,160 sense 979 00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:37,260 and he goes back and he files the report 980 00:45:42,589 --> 00:45:40,140 you know what I like about these is that 981 00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:42,599 they and they end up in reports you know 982 00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:45,540 they're they're documented you know 983 00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:47,880 and uh you know there's a whole lot of 984 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:50,160 cases from England oh my goodness 985 00:45:56,569 --> 00:45:53,760 Liverpool so many cases of people who 986 00:45:58,430 --> 00:45:56,579 there was a cop that chased uh a robber 987 00:46:01,550 --> 00:45:58,440 down uh 988 00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,560 um an Alleyway and the man disappears in 989 00:46:06,589 --> 00:46:04,079 front of his eyes and the robber 990 00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:06,599 suddenly reappears and he said get me 991 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,579 out of here get me out of here and and 992 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:10,800 then they sits him down and takes a 993 00:46:14,809 --> 00:46:12,780 statement it's a Station House and the 994 00:46:16,970 --> 00:46:14,819 man says I went down there and there 995 00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:16,980 were these old shops and I looked at the 996 00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:19,619 dates on the newspaper and it was not 997 00:46:25,069 --> 00:46:22,859 not today's date it was much much 998 00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,079 earlier you know so these are like good 999 00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:27,359 stories you know 1000 00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,940 um do you remember uh I think his name 1001 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:32,880 was norquist the guy from Sweden that 1002 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:35,520 yeah yeah repaired his uh his kitchen 1003 00:46:42,349 --> 00:46:39,480 sink yeah and goes 70 years in the 1004 00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:42,359 future and and meets him himself yeah 1005 00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:45,359 yeah and is able to take a picture and 1006 00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:47,640 they have the same tattoo yeah yeah yeah 1007 00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:50,280 I mean to me this makes perfect sense I 1008 00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,619 think I think it would be possible to go 1009 00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:54,839 into the future and see yourself 1010 00:46:58,849 --> 00:46:56,760 I don't see why that wouldn't be 1011 00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:58,859 possible you know people who do 1012 00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:01,140 prophetic dreaming they do exactly that 1013 00:47:06,130 --> 00:47:03,540 you know they they go and they they see 1014 00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:06,140 themselves in the future and they they 1015 00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:09,480 have vivid uh accounts of what they've 1016 00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:12,740 seen in their future uh life Lifetime 1017 00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,540 and and it becomes part of their living 1018 00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,000 reality you know and they come back and 1019 00:47:23,089 --> 00:47:20,160 they they talk about it we used to call 1020 00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,099 them prophets now we call them people 1021 00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:25,680 with prophetic dreams right 1022 00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:28,260 that's right that's right 1023 00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:32,700 um uh okay uh two quick questions and 1024 00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:34,500 then when we come back after the break 1025 00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:37,260 uh I I want to do uh the Deep dive into 1026 00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:38,640 the book 1027 00:47:49,010 --> 00:47:44,520 um but uh Deja Vu if we want scientific 1028 00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:49,020 proof yeah measure Deja Vu but I think 1029 00:47:57,650 --> 00:47:52,460 every scientist every physicist 1030 00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:57,660 every religious scholar every atheist it 1031 00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:00,780 doesn't matter no everybody's had a Deja 1032 00:48:06,170 --> 00:48:03,420 Vu everybody and you can't you can't 1033 00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,180 argue that I I do like some of the 1034 00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:09,599 Skeptics and the bunkers uh explanations 1035 00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:11,700 of it I don't buy any of it because it's 1036 00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:15,060 just they're trying to uh uh calm their 1037 00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:19,140 own nerves right because but uh I have 1038 00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:21,660 Deja vu's all the time is that time 1039 00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:24,780 travel that absolutely indicates time 1040 00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:27,540 travel because if you cannot come up 1041 00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:32,099 with a a mental physical memory of 1042 00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:34,140 something or someone 1043 00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,160 as in your past in this lifetime well 1044 00:48:42,349 --> 00:48:40,079 then what could it be you know usually 1045 00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:42,359 those things will happen in and the two 1046 00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:43,980 people will stand there and say I I've 1047 00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:46,200 met you before or or I've been here 1048 00:48:50,990 --> 00:48:48,660 before and they say well now let's let's 1049 00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:51,000 think how this could happen you know 1050 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,859 where have you taken vacations where do 1051 00:48:56,210 --> 00:48:54,480 you go to school you know who do you 1052 00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,220 know what movies have you seen what 1053 00:48:59,870 --> 00:48:58,319 books and magazines have you read and 1054 00:49:02,930 --> 00:48:59,880 then if you get down here there's just 1055 00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:02,940 no explanation there's nothing in your 1056 00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:05,760 memory banks in this lifetime well then 1057 00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:09,420 it's a memory of another lifetime 1058 00:49:17,809 --> 00:49:12,900 so I yeah I think they're true yeah when 1059 00:49:19,309 --> 00:49:17,819 when you hear I mean my my typical deja 1060 00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:19,319 vu 1061 00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:22,200 um and it happens all the time I will 1062 00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,819 hear 1063 00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:25,520 in my mind 1064 00:49:30,770 --> 00:49:28,440 the word for word the conversation 1065 00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:30,780 that's about to happen yeah that's 1066 00:49:36,109 --> 00:49:33,660 another one back and I'll just I'll see 1067 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,119 what's going on and I'll hear it go back 1068 00:49:41,089 --> 00:49:39,359 and forth and I just enjoy the moment I 1069 00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,099 don't freak out oh man I'm having a Deja 1070 00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:44,160 Moon announce it to the world but I know 1071 00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:48,300 at that point either somebody's read my 1072 00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:51,540 book of the future of my life and is 1073 00:49:56,890 --> 00:49:54,720 reciting it back in my mind possibility 1074 00:49:59,930 --> 00:49:56,900 I used to think that a lot actually 1075 00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,940 something else to it yeah but that 1076 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,680 doesn't change the experience the 1077 00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,359 experience is real 1078 00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:06,240 yeah yeah absolutely you know and that's 1079 00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:07,859 that's the other thing people you see 1080 00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,960 somebody and you you know that you know 1081 00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:13,200 them and they know you or or you you you 1082 00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:15,900 you see something that you've seen or uh 1083 00:50:20,990 --> 00:50:19,440 uh uh setting uh location you say I've 1084 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,000 been in this room or I've been in this 1085 00:50:25,309 --> 00:50:23,280 place before and then the other common 1086 00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:25,319 thing is exactly what you say here Jimmy 1087 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:26,940 is that you've heard this whole 1088 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,740 conversation and you know what's going 1089 00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:31,200 to happen next because time is looped 1090 00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,700 you know we're going through this whole 1091 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:35,040 thing over and over and this is this is 1092 00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:37,740 this is understandable because you know 1093 00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:40,500 the way I'll just throw this Karma thing 1094 00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:41,460 at you 1095 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,220 go through so many experiences that 1096 00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:49,200 you're supposed to take in and learn 1097 00:50:53,809 --> 00:50:51,720 from and and you're we're programmed 1098 00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:53,819 this way uh yeah there's no outside 1099 00:50:59,630 --> 00:50:57,240 Source we're self-programmed we we want 1100 00:51:01,849 --> 00:50:59,640 to do this we want to have these 1101 00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:01,859 experiences and we're looking for them 1102 00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:03,960 and we go through life looking for them 1103 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,880 and then they keep happening so 1104 00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:08,160 typically things will happen in like 1105 00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,440 maybe threes you know these things will 1106 00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:12,240 happen maybe slightly different each 1107 00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:14,520 time but it happens again and again and 1108 00:51:18,829 --> 00:51:16,500 again so you have like the same 1109 00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:18,839 conversation or you have the same 1110 00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:22,380 encounter or the same experience I can't 1111 00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,780 believe the whole thing happened again I 1112 00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,920 can't believe we're having this 1113 00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:27,839 conversation he said we've never had 1114 00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:31,200 this conversation before but you see you 1115 00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:33,000 know it's important for us 1116 00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:34,740 to 1117 00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:46,980 experience it's an opportunity 1118 00:51:52,809 --> 00:51:50,520 well and what about 1119 00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:52,819 what about the Mandela effect 1120 00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:57,119 yeah okay I'm glad you reacted like that 1121 00:52:02,630 --> 00:51:59,940 because it feels to me no okay I want 1122 00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,640 your opinion what do you think is going 1123 00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,800 on there well part of me thinks about 1124 00:52:08,569 --> 00:52:06,900 you know like urban legends and how 1125 00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:08,579 people will start to say something and 1126 00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:11,280 say oh yeah and then we know we all tend 1127 00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:13,319 to think of things we've seen in the 1128 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,720 past in a certain way because it hits us 1129 00:52:19,390 --> 00:52:18,480 a certain way but moreover I think it's 1130 00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:19,400 this 1131 00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,920 that group thought takes over and we 1132 00:52:26,569 --> 00:52:24,240 collectively 1133 00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:26,579 change the event 1134 00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:28,200 through group 1135 00:52:32,089 --> 00:52:29,640 effort 1136 00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:32,099 so if people want to think of something 1137 00:52:37,450 --> 00:52:34,260 happening in a certain way 1138 00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:37,460 or that someone died 1139 00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:40,079 or someone didn't die 1140 00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:42,119 or something happen to someone in a 1141 00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:43,500 certain manner 1142 00:52:49,549 --> 00:52:46,260 well then well collectively we do this 1143 00:52:51,530 --> 00:52:49,559 and then so it this is the way 1144 00:52:54,829 --> 00:52:51,540 a lot of things get changed you know 1145 00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:54,839 it's just group dynamics and it it's not 1146 00:52:58,809 --> 00:52:56,220 it happens on a very subtle level 1147 00:53:02,630 --> 00:52:58,819 through our Consciousness group thought 1148 00:53:06,650 --> 00:53:02,640 is very very powerful group songs group 1149 00:53:11,470 --> 00:53:06,660 anthems group mantras group chanting 1150 00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:14,630 yeah it is a hundred percent but that 1151 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,140 doesn't explain everything 1152 00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:18,960 no it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't 1153 00:53:25,549 --> 00:53:21,839 I had um 1154 00:53:28,450 --> 00:53:25,559 I had a series of phone calls and emails 1155 00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:28,460 after uh 1156 00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:31,140 first discussing the Mandela effect many 1157 00:53:37,970 --> 00:53:34,400 many years ago yeah and 1158 00:53:41,870 --> 00:53:37,980 my thing was the original shuttle 1159 00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:41,880 disaster oh yeah and so I'm not going to 1160 00:53:48,730 --> 00:53:46,500 get into that but what I did get was one 1161 00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:48,740 email after another 1162 00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:53,520 saying for example I was in fourth grade 1163 00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:56,099 science class that morning and they 1164 00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:58,260 rolled in the TV and we were watching it 1165 00:54:00,490 --> 00:53:59,760 in the fourth grade but in the fourth 1166 00:54:05,329 --> 00:54:00,500 grade 1167 00:54:07,849 --> 00:54:05,339 uh that was you know 1984. yeah you know 1168 00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:07,859 it was in the fourth grade I was in the 1169 00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:11,819 third Road it was 1986. yeah I know what 1170 00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:14,760 class I was in what teacher and the TV 1171 00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:19,440 and it wasn't 1985. right dozens of 1172 00:54:25,730 --> 00:54:22,260 emails like that one after another yeah 1173 00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:25,740 and that's not group thought no that's 1174 00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:27,960 crazy town and I don't have a way to 1175 00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:31,260 explain that yeah well I had a thing 1176 00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:34,800 with the Challenger explosion I wasn't 1177 00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:37,559 really conscious of it when it happened 1178 00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:39,900 but then later on I lived in New 1179 00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:40,920 Hampshire 1180 00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:43,740 and years after it happened I saw it on 1181 00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:46,140 television happening live 1182 00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:49,500 oh and someone said I just saw the 1183 00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:52,020 Challenger go up in this what lovely 1184 00:54:57,530 --> 00:54:54,180 school teacher from just down the road 1185 00:55:01,970 --> 00:54:57,540 here in this town in New Hampshire went 1186 00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,980 up in a ball of flames because the whole 1187 00:55:06,790 --> 00:55:03,839 Challenger exploded 1188 00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:06,800 uh on on you know 1189 00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:09,480 the O-rings what was the O-rings failed 1190 00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:10,980 and it went up and it didn't right right 1191 00:55:15,410 --> 00:55:13,260 it didn't it didn't it didn't go very 1192 00:55:17,809 --> 00:55:15,420 far before it exploded and someone said 1193 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:17,819 well that happened years ago on 1194 00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:24,049 so so I mean we all perceive time 1195 00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:25,740 differently don't we 1196 00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,589 you would think that without with the 1197 00:55:38,450 --> 00:55:35,520 cell phones that we have today and the 1198 00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:38,460 internet and watches clocks are 1199 00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,280 everywhere that our bodies would have 1200 00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:43,920 adjusted to the tempo of the second 1201 00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:48,300 right and then we would all experience 1202 00:55:53,390 --> 00:55:50,760 time the same can't be further from the 1203 00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:53,400 truth we always know it can't be it 1204 00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,040 can't be further from the truth uh 1205 00:56:01,549 --> 00:55:58,319 Einstein told though the story of uh of 1206 00:56:04,250 --> 00:56:01,559 a of a person sitting on a stove and 1207 00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:04,260 experiencing time very differently from 1208 00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:08,099 someone sitting there back in Einstein's 1209 00:56:12,589 --> 00:56:10,200 days in the 30 watching Marilyn Monroe 1210 00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:12,599 walk across the street the time would 1211 00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:15,300 pass differently and it does you know 1212 00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,339 when you're an accident in in an 1213 00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,680 accident time passes very very slowly 1214 00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:21,839 and you're having a wonderful experience 1215 00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,300 I mean when you're in an accident time 1216 00:56:29,329 --> 00:56:26,640 time is very different every second 1217 00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:29,339 seems like huge but but when you're 1218 00:56:33,230 --> 00:56:30,839 having a wonderful time it just all 1219 00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:33,240 melts away doesn't it it certainly does 1220 00:56:37,130 --> 00:56:35,220 yeah it is a very different thing but I 1221 00:56:39,970 --> 00:56:37,140 think it's a beautiful thing because if 1222 00:56:42,829 --> 00:56:39,980 we were all like having experiences 1223 00:56:46,430 --> 00:56:42,839 simultaneously and experiencing things 1224 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:46,440 uh equally you know simultaneously 1225 00:56:52,790 --> 00:56:50,400 together in the same manner well then we 1226 00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:52,800 wouldn't have much differentiation and I 1227 00:56:58,490 --> 00:56:55,800 think the beautiful thing is that that 1228 00:57:00,410 --> 00:56:58,500 you're you're going to come up with a 1229 00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:00,420 different outcome at the end of this 1230 00:57:04,609 --> 00:57:03,300 physical life that I will based on what 1231 00:57:09,770 --> 00:57:04,619 you've seen 1232 00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,530 I'll be like the Montauk project of 1233 00:57:16,809 --> 00:57:14,640 Philadelphia Experiment oh oh yeah yeah 1234 00:57:21,069 --> 00:57:16,819 yeah so so the Philadelphia 1235 00:57:26,990 --> 00:57:21,079 Experiment the the Navy was actually 1236 00:57:29,890 --> 00:57:27,000 trying at that time to to find a way to 1237 00:57:35,049 --> 00:57:29,900 make a ship invisible 1238 00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,059 radar invisible yeah so they so so so so 1239 00:57:40,250 --> 00:57:38,160 uh and the ship wasn't exactly the 1240 00:57:43,130 --> 00:57:40,260 Philadelphia but it was tied up next to 1241 00:57:46,210 --> 00:57:43,140 the Philadelphia and I think this is a 1242 00:57:50,290 --> 00:57:46,220 case of like urban legend right so so 1243 00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:50,300 there was it was somewhat successful 1244 00:57:55,490 --> 00:57:53,640 all anybody saw was the Philadelphia you 1245 00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:55,500 know and then the Philadelphia was 1246 00:58:01,870 --> 00:57:58,140 somewhere else but there was a very 1247 00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:01,880 elaborate uh Navy plan 1248 00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:04,980 to uh make something disappear I think 1249 00:58:10,790 --> 00:58:08,040 which is which is half the magical trick 1250 00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:10,800 in time travel 1251 00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:14,339 yeah I think um the original versions of 1252 00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:17,640 it is uh they were trying to like 1253 00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:21,599 degauss a ship yeah yeah yeah right so 1254 00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:25,380 which is extremely crazy voltage yeah uh 1255 00:58:31,069 --> 00:58:29,040 with the old TV sets two TVs if you took 1256 00:58:32,809 --> 00:58:31,079 the back off you would see there was a 1257 00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:32,819 wire that went around and that was a 1258 00:58:38,569 --> 00:58:36,240 degaussing uh wire that kept the TV set 1259 00:58:41,390 --> 00:58:38,579 to goust let me tell you something you 1260 00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:41,400 touch that thing that's a bad experience 1261 00:58:47,089 --> 00:58:43,260 right there so 1262 00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:47,099 they tried to degauss an entire ship not 1263 00:58:54,370 --> 00:58:50,760 to make it disappear yeah but to make 1264 00:58:58,750 --> 00:58:54,380 the metal neutral so it would be 1265 00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:58,760 invisible to radar and so 1266 00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:01,380 just it's just a bad idea from the word 1267 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:04,319 go if you ask me but anyway they flipped 1268 00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,760 the switch and the next thing you know 1269 00:59:10,609 --> 00:59:08,160 you got a little time travel going on 1270 00:59:13,849 --> 00:59:10,619 you got guys that were melted into walls 1271 00:59:15,530 --> 00:59:13,859 right yeah yeah yeah you know they're 1272 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:15,540 just still explaining it you know I was 1273 00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:17,880 also thinking of the um some of the 1274 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,819 Black Arts Black Ops that our own 1275 00:59:26,930 --> 00:59:23,280 government has done and this is pretty 1276 00:59:28,690 --> 00:59:26,940 darn close I think but you know the idea 1277 00:59:31,730 --> 00:59:28,700 of of of of of 1278 00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:31,740 using people with 1279 00:59:38,750 --> 00:59:37,140 with psychic skills to change uh to 1280 00:59:42,289 --> 00:59:38,760 analyze radar 1281 00:59:44,809 --> 00:59:42,299 and and relocate things on a radar scope 1282 00:59:46,970 --> 00:59:44,819 you know I I talked with with one fell I 1283 00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:46,980 can't say his name but he was for years 1284 00:59:50,270 --> 00:59:48,599 working in that 1285 00:59:52,730 --> 00:59:50,280 and um 1286 00:59:57,410 --> 00:59:52,740 and you know they they would ask them 1287 01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:57,420 not only to to make them to to to make 1288 01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,720 them move on the radar but disappear 1289 01:00:05,150 --> 01:00:02,880 from the radar and the result was that 1290 01:00:08,030 --> 01:00:05,160 the ships would tend to disappear you 1291 01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:08,040 know and and um 1292 01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,740 you know it's talk bent off you know was 1293 01:00:13,609 --> 01:00:12,240 involved in that sort of thing and he 1294 01:00:18,589 --> 01:00:13,619 just disappeared 1295 01:00:22,609 --> 01:00:18,599 was so deep into the program 1296 01:00:25,490 --> 01:00:22,619 I think there is uh there is a lot of 1297 01:00:28,970 --> 01:00:25,500 abilities that people have 1298 01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:28,980 to move things through space and time 1299 01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:31,500 that would have to be come down in the 1300 01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,940 in the in the in the final analysis as I 1301 01:00:41,390 --> 01:00:37,920 don't want to say mental Powers but 1302 01:00:42,829 --> 01:00:41,400 powers in in inner inner powers that 1303 01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:42,839 people have 1304 01:00:49,130 --> 01:00:45,960 because I think they have nothing to do 1305 01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,140 with your with your physical mind but 1306 01:00:55,370 --> 01:00:51,599 they have everything to do with with 1307 01:00:59,150 --> 01:00:55,380 with your your higher Powers as as as as 1308 01:01:01,010 --> 01:00:59,160 as as someone who occupies the body you 1309 01:01:03,770 --> 01:01:01,020 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01:04:25,609 --> 01:04:19,319 coffee I drink it is the best and it's 1395 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,490 all right Welcome Back Fade to Black I 1396 01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:30,480 am your host Jimmy Church 1397 01:04:35,089 --> 01:04:33,359 and uh Our Guest tonight's Von brashler 1398 01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:35,099 and we're discussing his uh latest book 1399 01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:37,680 time shifts and we're talking about time 1400 01:04:42,109 --> 01:04:40,079 travel and as you can see I wish I could 1401 01:04:47,210 --> 01:04:42,119 time travel back about a week 1402 01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:50,450 better though yeah I lost uh I went on a 1403 01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:51,540 cruise 1404 01:04:57,549 --> 01:04:53,760 I was gone for seven days 1405 01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:57,559 and nothing but yelling party last week 1406 01:05:04,130 --> 01:05:00,480 uh for seven days and I haven't got my 1407 01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:04,140 voice back yet oh wow yeah 1408 01:05:11,329 --> 01:05:07,680 but uh I'll I'll be fine 1409 01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,339 um yeah you mentioned uh I want to talk 1410 01:05:15,289 --> 01:05:12,960 about the book 1411 01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,299 um but you had mentioned uh earlier in 1412 01:05:20,569 --> 01:05:17,760 the show that you've time traveled and 1413 01:05:22,970 --> 01:05:20,579 you've experienced this uh can you walk 1414 01:05:26,030 --> 01:05:22,980 me through yeah 1415 01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:26,040 um let's see 1416 01:05:31,549 --> 01:05:28,799 my cat is taking over the broadcast I'm 1417 01:05:33,609 --> 01:05:31,559 sorry okay 1418 01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,619 um 1419 01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:36,240 I've had these experiences all my life 1420 01:05:42,530 --> 01:05:39,420 and I I I guess it really is what 1421 01:05:44,930 --> 01:05:42,540 started me off on this whole thing 1422 01:05:47,450 --> 01:05:44,940 I mean I never really intended to write 1423 01:05:50,930 --> 01:05:47,460 any books on time travel or any of these 1424 01:05:53,329 --> 01:05:50,940 related subjects but when I was 11 years 1425 01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:53,339 old I had an experience where 1426 01:06:00,289 --> 01:05:55,440 where I 1427 01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:03,289 I would just this kid in neighborhood 1428 01:06:07,730 --> 01:06:05,819 and I decided one day I was gonna ride 1429 01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,740 on the the berry bus and go out to the 1430 01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:10,079 Berry Fields and all my friends they 1431 01:06:14,510 --> 01:06:12,480 would ride on this we all had this idea 1432 01:06:17,930 --> 01:06:14,520 we were going to go out to the Berry 1433 01:06:19,309 --> 01:06:17,940 Fields and this old converted school bus 1434 01:06:23,030 --> 01:06:19,319 yellow bus 1435 01:06:26,089 --> 01:06:23,040 and um we had we ended up going about 20 1436 01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:26,099 miles out of town and my plan was 1437 01:06:31,010 --> 01:06:27,780 basically just to go out there and eat 1438 01:06:33,170 --> 01:06:31,020 berries and swim in the river 1439 01:06:36,410 --> 01:06:33,180 I had to do and that's pretty much what 1440 01:06:39,170 --> 01:06:36,420 I did and on about the third day maybe 1441 01:06:41,450 --> 01:06:39,180 the fourth day I I was just full of 1442 01:06:43,490 --> 01:06:41,460 berries and I went down there and 1443 01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:43,500 I started swimming in the river and I 1444 01:06:47,809 --> 01:06:46,140 got really really sick and I went and I 1445 01:06:50,329 --> 01:06:47,819 told the bus driver I need to go home 1446 01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:50,339 I'm really sick he said what's wrong he 1447 01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:52,020 said well you just you just have a 1448 01:06:57,049 --> 01:06:54,420 stomach ache now when people are very 1449 01:07:01,010 --> 01:06:57,059 sick sometimes they just have the sense 1450 01:07:03,890 --> 01:07:01,020 that you know they're really in danger 1451 01:07:06,529 --> 01:07:03,900 and uh and that's the way I felt I tried 1452 01:07:09,770 --> 01:07:06,539 to convince the the owner of the berry 1453 01:07:13,069 --> 01:07:09,780 fuel to move me out home now I didn't 1454 01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:13,079 know exactly where I was I was a silly 1455 01:07:18,049 --> 01:07:15,299 kid that didn't pay any attention to the 1456 01:07:21,170 --> 01:07:18,059 direction the bus went I just knew that 1457 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,180 we drove for uh I don't know close to an 1458 01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,760 hour to get there and I figured I was 20 1459 01:07:27,890 --> 01:07:25,200 miles from home 1460 01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:27,900 and I looked out and I saw that we drove 1461 01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:32,160 over a railroad crossing as we entered 1462 01:07:36,349 --> 01:07:33,960 the Berry field now 1463 01:07:38,089 --> 01:07:36,359 it occurred to me that uh there would be 1464 01:07:39,950 --> 01:07:38,099 a railroad that would go right in front 1465 01:07:42,349 --> 01:07:39,960 of my house and I just follow that 1466 01:07:44,089 --> 01:07:42,359 railroad just walk up the railroad and 1467 01:07:45,650 --> 01:07:44,099 I'd be home in no time 1468 01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:45,660 now I didn't 1469 01:07:50,930 --> 01:07:48,059 know exactly which way this railroad 1470 01:07:52,430 --> 01:07:50,940 track went what what switchbacks there 1471 01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,440 would be or anything 1472 01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:54,240 and I told my friends I was going to do 1473 01:07:58,250 --> 01:07:56,160 that and they thought I was crazy 1474 01:08:00,109 --> 01:07:58,260 well I started down the road and I 1475 01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:00,119 looked back and I waved and then I I 1476 01:08:04,130 --> 01:08:01,680 went around the corner and there were 1477 01:08:06,529 --> 01:08:04,140 all these these uh sticker bushes and 1478 01:08:10,250 --> 01:08:06,539 then there I couldn't see them anymore 1479 01:08:12,410 --> 01:08:10,260 so I I looked ahead at the 1480 01:08:15,710 --> 01:08:12,420 railroad tracks that I was walking on 1481 01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:15,720 and I I remember taking one giant step 1482 01:08:22,370 --> 01:08:19,560 forward and then everything went black 1483 01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:22,380 and the next thing I knew 1484 01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:25,500 it was turning dark 1485 01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:29,460 and I was standing in front of my house 1486 01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,500 and I thought wow 1487 01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:33,359 how'd that happen 1488 01:08:38,570 --> 01:08:35,819 but I was sick so I just stepped down 1489 01:08:42,050 --> 01:08:38,580 from the railroad tracks I remember the 1490 01:08:45,169 --> 01:08:42,060 tracks were much elevated from street 1491 01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:45,179 level so I had to actually step down 1492 01:08:50,150 --> 01:08:48,060 from the tracks I remember that and then 1493 01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:50,160 I went into the front door 1494 01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:53,580 and I plopped down on my mother's bed 1495 01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:56,219 and waited for her to comment and I said 1496 01:09:03,470 --> 01:08:59,040 I'm very sick you have to call a doctor 1497 01:09:06,650 --> 01:09:03,480 well we did and we got to the hospital 1498 01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:06,660 just as my appendix were bursting 1499 01:09:10,849 --> 01:09:08,160 now 1500 01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:10,859 I see it seems that I travel 20 some 1501 01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:11,940 miles 1502 01:09:17,329 --> 01:09:14,699 and I did it in the blink of an eye 1503 01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:17,339 and and and I started out it was about 1504 01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,699 one when I got home it was dusk so I'd 1505 01:09:24,829 --> 01:09:22,880 say it was about 1506 01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:24,839 839 1507 01:09:28,430 --> 01:09:26,940 I don't remember walking 1508 01:09:30,890 --> 01:09:28,440 any of that 1509 01:09:32,990 --> 01:09:30,900 and so I just I totally forgot about 1510 01:09:35,809 --> 01:09:33,000 that for a long time I tried really hard 1511 01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,819 not to think about it I said well I'm 1512 01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:37,920 really happy it happened and I told 1513 01:09:41,630 --> 01:09:40,140 myself that an angel had picked me up 1514 01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,640 and carried me 1515 01:09:45,249 --> 01:09:43,679 and I couldn't remember no such thing 1516 01:09:48,289 --> 01:09:45,259 ever happening 1517 01:09:50,150 --> 01:09:48,299 which would be nice but I don't think I 1518 01:09:51,950 --> 01:09:50,160 I would remember if an angel picked me 1519 01:09:54,169 --> 01:09:51,960 up and carried me 1520 01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:54,179 and it's like I just blacked out and 1521 01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:56,100 then I was somewhere else 1522 01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:58,260 so the next year 1523 01:10:03,229 --> 01:10:00,840 I was in the backyard and I looked out 1524 01:10:05,150 --> 01:10:03,239 at the front yard and I had this 1525 01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,160 flashback of the whole incident 1526 01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:06,960 happening again 1527 01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,260 and I had to admit to myself then and 1528 01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,480 there that the railroad did not stop 1529 01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:14,340 anywhere near my house 1530 01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:16,140 never did 1531 01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:22,100 from my house so that was a totally 1532 01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,260 erroneous con you know thought of my 1533 01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,640 part 1534 01:10:32,330 --> 01:10:29,040 and the odd thing is that two years 1535 01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:32,340 later we moved to uh north of there and 1536 01:10:37,130 --> 01:10:34,800 in fact the railroad didn't pass in 1537 01:10:39,890 --> 01:10:37,140 front of our house 1538 01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:39,900 so you know I told nobody about that 1539 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,360 story you know because I couldn't make 1540 01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:44,880 sense of it so I wasn't going to tell it 1541 01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:47,340 to anybody I just said I got home 1542 01:10:52,610 --> 01:10:50,760 I got home in the nick of time and and 1543 01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:52,620 thank goodness I did because I was very 1544 01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:54,960 very sick you know 1545 01:10:59,149 --> 01:10:57,000 but I couldn't explain it never could 1546 01:11:01,729 --> 01:10:59,159 and then and then years later I started 1547 01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:01,739 having more Encounters of a similar 1548 01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:02,940 nature 1549 01:11:09,410 --> 01:11:06,179 and when I lived in in Oregon and uh 1550 01:11:11,390 --> 01:11:09,420 there would be like huge parts of the 1551 01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:11,400 day I couldn't account for I remember 1552 01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:15,179 walking down the street one day 1553 01:11:21,229 --> 01:11:18,060 um and and I worked for the newspaper 1554 01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:21,239 and I was starting down one end of town 1555 01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:23,520 and walking 1556 01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:25,800 and then I remember 1557 01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:28,320 everything went black 1558 01:11:31,870 --> 01:11:30,060 and then suddenly it was at the other 1559 01:11:35,090 --> 01:11:31,880 end of town and I didn't remember 1560 01:11:37,010 --> 01:11:35,100 Crossing intersections or anything 1561 01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:37,020 you know and I had another experience 1562 01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:40,560 where I was developing film 1563 01:11:45,229 --> 01:11:42,840 and the whole room just kind of changed 1564 01:11:46,729 --> 01:11:45,239 in front of me like there was no 1565 01:11:48,350 --> 01:11:46,739 building there 1566 01:11:50,209 --> 01:11:48,360 and um 1567 01:11:54,290 --> 01:11:50,219 then I came back and I didn't know how 1568 01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:54,300 much time it actually transpired so I 1569 01:11:59,450 --> 01:11:56,820 didn't know how if I'd Overexposed or 1570 01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,460 underexposed my film 1571 01:12:03,950 --> 01:12:01,440 and so I kept having these experiences 1572 01:12:05,630 --> 01:12:03,960 off and on all the time 1573 01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:05,640 and then I started running into other 1574 01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:07,920 people they would tell me their stories 1575 01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:09,540 and they would say oh you must think I'm 1576 01:12:15,649 --> 01:12:12,179 crazy and I said you know really I don't 1577 01:12:18,050 --> 01:12:15,659 I kind of relate and then I found out 1578 01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:18,060 that a lot of people have these odd 1579 01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:19,800 things happening to them 1580 01:12:28,689 --> 01:12:22,980 but they don't want to talk about it 1581 01:12:35,810 --> 01:12:32,570 I was trying I was trying to avoid being 1582 01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:35,820 you know philosophical or you know some 1583 01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:38,880 deep existential influence right I I 1584 01:12:42,290 --> 01:12:40,260 didn't want to go there with everybody 1585 01:12:44,030 --> 01:12:42,300 but yeah 1586 01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:44,040 I said 1587 01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:45,900 everybody 1588 01:12:52,990 --> 01:12:49,020 has had a crazy experience 1589 01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,000 that they've put in a box on the shelf 1590 01:13:00,169 --> 01:12:56,400 and you've forgotten about it but if you 1591 01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:00,179 go back and you just think and just just 1592 01:13:03,890 --> 01:13:01,560 take it back and go wait a minute there 1593 01:13:07,790 --> 01:13:03,900 was that one time 1594 01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:07,800 that's right that did happen but we 1595 01:13:12,350 --> 01:13:09,420 don't have people to talk to about it 1596 01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:12,360 and a lot of times it's very fleeting 1597 01:13:18,770 --> 01:13:16,140 right it's very quick and it just comes 1598 01:13:21,890 --> 01:13:18,780 and goes and then life gets in the way 1599 01:13:24,410 --> 01:13:21,900 yeah and you just you just shelve it 1600 01:13:27,530 --> 01:13:24,420 don't you I think a lot of these 1601 01:13:30,350 --> 01:13:27,540 experiences happen too when you're going 1602 01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:30,360 through an ax an accident or an 1603 01:13:33,770 --> 01:13:31,679 emergency 1604 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:33,780 and you 1605 01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:36,480 you have to think very quickly you know 1606 01:13:43,010 --> 01:13:40,140 and you we you somehow find a way to 1607 01:13:45,530 --> 01:13:43,020 slow down time and what I've noticed 1608 01:13:46,970 --> 01:13:45,540 through the years 1609 01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:46,980 um is that 1610 01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:49,560 if I really work at it I can slow down 1611 01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:52,980 time but I'm only slowing it down for me 1612 01:13:58,370 --> 01:13:55,860 it's my perception of it as you see 1613 01:14:00,890 --> 01:13:58,380 and I can slow it down 1614 01:14:04,189 --> 01:14:00,900 um and I can make like sometimes if I 1615 01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:04,199 have like only like 27 minutes and I 1616 01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:06,120 have like two hours and 70 minutes of 1617 01:14:09,290 --> 01:14:08,159 work and I'm thinking there's no way I 1618 01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:09,300 can be done 1619 01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:11,040 and I said well I'm going to slow down 1620 01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:13,440 time and I do it you know and I can and 1621 01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:16,800 I can sometimes recreate this whole you 1622 01:14:21,169 --> 01:14:18,719 know scenario because I've done it 1623 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:21,179 before and then you know you could also 1624 01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:23,760 shrink timing so it goes so it just 1625 01:14:28,490 --> 01:14:26,400 seems to go it stretches you could 1626 01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,500 stretch it out and it's longer and 1627 01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:30,960 longer and longer I remember once 1628 01:14:36,169 --> 01:14:33,960 driving across Montana in a blizzard and 1629 01:14:39,050 --> 01:14:36,179 I had no gas in my tank but it was early 1630 01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:39,060 morning hours and this is before you 1631 01:14:43,070 --> 01:14:40,800 could drive up any time of the day or 1632 01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,080 night put in your credit card if they 1633 01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:44,880 the gas station wasn't open you didn't 1634 01:14:49,130 --> 01:14:45,920 get gas 1635 01:14:52,010 --> 01:14:49,140 I was in a I was in a in a Bronco and I 1636 01:14:55,490 --> 01:14:52,020 was driving across Montana all of 1637 01:14:57,290 --> 01:14:55,500 Montana uh in in a snowstorm and I 1638 01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,300 started about I don't know 1639 01:15:03,229 --> 01:14:59,280 quarter to three 1640 01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:03,239 and uh you know I kept thinking like 1641 01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:05,760 no I'm gonna I'm gonna make it you know 1642 01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:08,280 it said empty and I said no you're gonna 1643 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,520 make it I said you are going to be from 1644 01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:13,679 here to there 1645 01:15:20,090 --> 01:15:16,320 and it's going to happen so quickly 1646 01:15:22,669 --> 01:15:20,100 and and you have everything you need 1647 01:15:26,270 --> 01:15:22,679 and somehow I did that you know I got I 1648 01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:26,280 got I got to the other side of Montana 1649 01:15:32,030 --> 01:15:29,400 and uh in the gas tank still sit empty 1650 01:15:34,910 --> 01:15:32,040 and you know I I know that gas tank 1651 01:15:37,070 --> 01:15:34,920 worked I know it worked I know it worked 1652 01:15:38,810 --> 01:15:37,080 but on that day it seemed to stretch so 1653 01:15:41,149 --> 01:15:38,820 I don't know if that's a good example of 1654 01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:41,159 stretching time or not but I've also 1655 01:15:46,669 --> 01:15:44,880 made time go slow and fast and it's 1656 01:15:48,649 --> 01:15:46,679 really good in moments when you need it 1657 01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:48,659 to go slow like we're in an accident 1658 01:15:54,830 --> 01:15:52,080 though I remember a time when I was 1659 01:15:57,410 --> 01:15:54,840 working for another newspaper and I had 1660 01:15:59,689 --> 01:15:57,420 a little a little sports car and I 1661 01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:59,699 thought I could go any speed I want and 1662 01:16:04,729 --> 01:16:02,640 make hairpin turns now that works if you 1663 01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:04,739 unless you're coming downhill 1664 01:16:09,050 --> 01:16:07,260 and you and you land into a pile of 1665 01:16:12,709 --> 01:16:09,060 water and you have to make a 90 degree 1666 01:16:14,810 --> 01:16:12,719 turn then it's really really hard so I I 1667 01:16:17,570 --> 01:16:14,820 did that I came straight down this hill 1668 01:16:20,450 --> 01:16:17,580 and I saw that since it had rain the 1669 01:16:22,729 --> 01:16:20,460 night before all the water had gone down 1670 01:16:24,590 --> 01:16:22,739 the hill and settled at the bottom of 1671 01:16:26,209 --> 01:16:24,600 the hill in a puddle 1672 01:16:29,149 --> 01:16:26,219 and 1673 01:16:30,649 --> 01:16:29,159 I wasn't going to make the turn so I 1674 01:16:31,610 --> 01:16:30,659 could either go over the abankment over 1675 01:16:34,669 --> 01:16:31,620 the cliff 1676 01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:34,679 or just smash into the the barrier 1677 01:16:40,189 --> 01:16:37,679 or try to turn and crash 1678 01:16:43,490 --> 01:16:40,199 and and I thought of all these things 1679 01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:43,500 and it it's odd because I must have had 1680 01:16:48,350 --> 01:16:46,080 about less than two seconds to think of 1681 01:16:51,229 --> 01:16:48,360 all these things but I thought of all 1682 01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:51,239 many many scenarios until I stumbled 1683 01:16:57,290 --> 01:16:53,640 upon the only thing that would work you 1684 01:16:59,209 --> 01:16:57,300 know and and before I got to that I 1685 01:17:01,970 --> 01:16:59,219 thought of like three four five other 1686 01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:01,980 things and it's like how could I think 1687 01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:04,560 of all these things so quickly but very 1688 01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,679 often when people are in an emergency or 1689 01:17:12,410 --> 01:17:08,880 an accident 1690 01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:12,420 you know they have amazing uh Powers 1691 01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:14,760 sometimes they can lift buildings you 1692 01:17:19,610 --> 01:17:17,280 know or cars off of children 1693 01:17:20,689 --> 01:17:19,620 and sometimes that could just slow down 1694 01:17:25,930 --> 01:17:20,699 time 1695 01:17:28,850 --> 01:17:25,940 100 1696 01:17:31,850 --> 01:17:28,860 yep yeah yeah Kobe's shooting 1697 01:17:35,090 --> 01:17:31,860 three-pointers yep they they they make 1698 01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,100 they make the basket look big it's not 1699 01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,440 real time to them yeah or they'll 1700 01:17:42,050 --> 01:17:39,600 they're the the best baseball hitters 1701 01:17:44,330 --> 01:17:42,060 the best batters they will tell you if 1702 01:17:46,610 --> 01:17:44,340 you interview them and you know I used 1703 01:17:48,770 --> 01:17:46,620 to be a sports reporter the ball is 1704 01:17:49,729 --> 01:17:48,780 going coming to them at over 100 miles 1705 01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,739 an hour 1706 01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:52,080 but they could slow it down in their 1707 01:17:58,689 --> 01:17:55,560 Mind's Eye so that they can see the 1708 01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:58,699 actual uh uh stitching on the ball 1709 01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:02,400 stitching rotation yeah you got Pitch 1710 01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,260 instead of taking a quarter of a second 1711 01:18:08,810 --> 01:18:06,239 yeah they could tell which way the ball 1712 01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:08,820 is spinning yeah yeah you know and it's 1713 01:18:14,209 --> 01:18:11,280 like how do they do that be it's because 1714 01:18:17,450 --> 01:18:14,219 they slow down time in their Mind's Eye 1715 01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:17,460 which again is the idea that we how we 1716 01:18:21,550 --> 01:18:20,159 perceive time individually is how we 1717 01:18:25,970 --> 01:18:21,560 experience time 1718 01:18:29,689 --> 01:18:25,980 golfers golfers that they are in a 1719 01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:29,699 slow-mo they are living they have uh 1720 01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:33,360 they have the anatomy of like a fly yeah 1721 01:18:37,729 --> 01:18:34,620 yeah 1722 01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:37,739 there was a guy on yes like two days ago 1723 01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:40,260 he had a hole in one in a tournament and 1724 01:18:44,689 --> 01:18:42,719 that televised it it was incredible how 1725 01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:44,699 could you do that you think of of 1726 01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:46,620 everything you need to think of to do 1727 01:18:51,229 --> 01:18:49,440 that but he just you can't say he was 1728 01:18:52,850 --> 01:18:51,239 lucky because he was trying to put the 1729 01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:52,860 ball in the hole 1730 01:18:58,610 --> 01:18:56,400 it's just amazing was that a car trip 1731 01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:58,620 across Montana was that from the forward 1732 01:19:03,470 --> 01:19:00,239 in your book 1733 01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:03,480 uh no that was another uh car crap by 1734 01:19:08,570 --> 01:19:06,960 the couple that that got lost in time uh 1735 01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:08,580 trip from Chicago 1736 01:19:15,530 --> 01:19:12,480 to New Mexico what happened oh they well 1737 01:19:18,050 --> 01:19:15,540 they uh there was a detour halfway there 1738 01:19:20,450 --> 01:19:18,060 and they took the detour and got off the 1739 01:19:22,370 --> 01:19:20,460 main Highway and then they they would 1740 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:22,380 see these signs for these little towns 1741 01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:25,260 and every time they'd pull in there you 1742 01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:26,640 know they'd see the same thing there 1743 01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:28,940 would be a woman pushing a baby buggy 1744 01:19:33,229 --> 01:19:32,159 there would be like a gazebo in a town 1745 01:19:38,450 --> 01:19:33,239 square 1746 01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:38,460 there would be um like a cafe there 1747 01:19:44,570 --> 01:19:41,280 would be an old church 1748 01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,580 um and and then no nothing seemed to be 1749 01:19:48,830 --> 01:19:46,560 moving everything seemed like static 1750 01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:48,840 like the woman with the baby buggy never 1751 01:19:53,630 --> 01:19:51,780 really moved it the the kids playing in 1752 01:19:56,510 --> 01:19:53,640 the park didn't seem to move they were 1753 01:19:58,370 --> 01:19:56,520 just like Frozen in time and they said 1754 01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,380 this is creepy so they get back on the 1755 01:20:02,030 --> 01:20:00,239 main road and they go you go down the 1756 01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,040 road they say well let's look at the 1757 01:20:05,390 --> 01:20:04,080 next town that was that was weird and 1758 01:20:07,010 --> 01:20:05,400 they went to the next town it was the 1759 01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:07,020 same thing except that the clock was 1760 01:20:12,830 --> 01:20:11,040 like one uh one hour one hour later you 1761 01:20:15,290 --> 01:20:12,840 know it was the same clock and the same 1762 01:20:17,689 --> 01:20:15,300 woman with the baby buggy in the same 1763 01:20:21,410 --> 01:20:17,699 part and they did they did this three 1764 01:20:25,370 --> 01:20:21,420 times until they got beyond the um 1765 01:20:28,130 --> 01:20:25,380 the um The Detour you know and then and 1766 01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:28,140 then everything was normal but there was 1767 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:30,600 just no explaining now I was interviewed 1768 01:20:35,390 --> 01:20:33,360 in Australia and there were these two 1769 01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:35,400 women there were sisters they they said 1770 01:20:40,130 --> 01:20:37,620 oh my God that happened to us in 1771 01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,140 Australia I said well tell me it was the 1772 01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:42,000 same thing they're driving in their car 1773 01:20:48,350 --> 01:20:46,080 you know and they they pulled off this 1774 01:20:50,510 --> 01:20:48,360 little town and it was just crazy 1775 01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:50,520 nothing moved you know it was like the 1776 01:20:55,850 --> 01:20:53,640 the three Navy Cadets and Kersey you 1777 01:20:58,189 --> 01:20:55,860 know it was a a moment in time that 1778 01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:58,199 never enough with without motion you 1779 01:21:03,470 --> 01:21:01,440 know they were like looking at a Norman 1780 01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:03,480 Rockwell painting you know there was a 1781 01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:04,560 still life 1782 01:21:08,990 --> 01:21:07,260 and and then they got back on the road 1783 01:21:11,209 --> 01:21:09,000 and the same thing happened again in 1784 01:21:13,490 --> 01:21:11,219 their case that happened twice and they 1785 01:21:15,709 --> 01:21:13,500 said we we haven't talked about that my 1786 01:21:17,930 --> 01:21:15,719 sister and I because we thought people 1787 01:21:19,610 --> 01:21:17,940 would think we were daft 1788 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:19,620 what do you think and I said you know 1789 01:21:24,530 --> 01:21:22,320 I've heard this story before 1790 01:21:25,970 --> 01:21:24,540 so I'm thinking like maybe you're not 1791 01:21:27,950 --> 01:21:25,980 daft 1792 01:21:30,590 --> 01:21:27,960 plus the fact that they were together 1793 01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:30,600 and experience it together you know get 1794 01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:33,120 some collaboration to the story 1795 01:21:39,130 --> 01:21:37,920 now as an adult uh what do you do now uh 1796 01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:39,140 now that you 1797 01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,199 you've got a general idea right how to 1798 01:21:47,630 --> 01:21:45,120 get this done what do you do now and and 1799 01:21:51,530 --> 01:21:47,640 how do you get it done well yeah I'm 1800 01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:51,540 concentrating on on going to all of 1801 01:21:57,770 --> 01:21:55,440 these you know time travel scenarios 1802 01:22:00,410 --> 01:21:57,780 through lucid dreams that I program 1803 01:22:02,450 --> 01:22:00,420 lucid dreams and I consciously set up 1804 01:22:05,390 --> 01:22:02,460 dreams to go into the past or the future 1805 01:22:08,030 --> 01:22:05,400 for very specific things you know it's 1806 01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:08,040 kind of like you know like uh write down 1807 01:22:11,450 --> 01:22:09,540 where you want to go tomorrow and how 1808 01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:11,460 you want to spend your day it's like 1809 01:22:16,669 --> 01:22:14,400 you're planning out your vacation so you 1810 01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:16,679 know often I'll do this and 1811 01:22:22,189 --> 01:22:19,380 I think that a lucid dream is is a 1812 01:22:24,830 --> 01:22:22,199 wonderful opportunity to experience time 1813 01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:24,840 shifts and I think it can be done 1814 01:22:29,450 --> 01:22:27,840 it's through visualization take me 1815 01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:29,460 through the process I'll do it tonight 1816 01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:32,820 okay so what the technique I've come up 1817 01:22:38,930 --> 01:22:36,480 with for lucid dream programming is um 1818 01:22:42,189 --> 01:22:38,940 is is is to 1819 01:22:45,169 --> 01:22:42,199 get very quiet and and put your 1820 01:22:47,709 --> 01:22:45,179 put your body to rest your physical body 1821 01:22:50,209 --> 01:22:47,719 and I do this through a series of 1822 01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:50,219 self-hypnosis techniques 1823 01:22:55,370 --> 01:22:53,520 and the drill is to like focus on your 1824 01:22:57,649 --> 01:22:55,380 feet and getting them very tired and 1825 01:23:00,830 --> 01:22:57,659 numb and letting go let them go to sleep 1826 01:23:03,770 --> 01:23:00,840 then your legs and then your torso then 1827 01:23:06,890 --> 01:23:03,780 your midsection your your your arms your 1828 01:23:09,229 --> 01:23:06,900 chest your head all the way up to your 1829 01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:09,239 ears your eyes your eyebrows and your 1830 01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:12,000 hair and then finally put your your your 1831 01:23:19,310 --> 01:23:16,560 physical mind to rest let it rest with 1832 01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:19,320 the assurance that it's going to be safe 1833 01:23:24,530 --> 01:23:21,900 and it's going to be well protected 1834 01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:24,540 and nothing is going to happen to it 1835 01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:28,560 and then you begin to go deep within 1836 01:23:35,209 --> 01:23:32,159 yourself where you visualize a blank 1837 01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:35,219 slate usually I'll just keep doing this 1838 01:23:41,090 --> 01:23:37,560 until I see just nothing but Blackness 1839 01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:41,100 and I tune out all internal and external 1840 01:23:45,649 --> 01:23:44,880 thoughts as in meditation and then and 1841 01:23:48,169 --> 01:23:45,659 then 1842 01:23:51,229 --> 01:23:48,179 when it gets totally black 1843 01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:51,239 then I start to draw things upon a 1844 01:23:57,290 --> 01:23:55,260 tablet in front of me and the tablet is 1845 01:24:00,470 --> 01:23:57,300 something that I could draw on 1846 01:24:01,550 --> 01:24:00,480 and I can put down there exactly where I 1847 01:24:05,090 --> 01:24:01,560 want to go 1848 01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,100 and what I want to see and what time 1849 01:24:09,890 --> 01:24:07,440 period I want to visit so if there's a 1850 01:24:12,830 --> 01:24:09,900 period in the in the past specifically I 1851 01:24:15,530 --> 01:24:12,840 want to visit then I'll include as many 1852 01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:15,540 details as I think are important such as 1853 01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:18,480 what other persons would I want there 1854 01:24:24,169 --> 01:24:21,600 is it a specific time and then where is 1855 01:24:26,090 --> 01:24:24,179 it and then what experience do I want to 1856 01:24:28,669 --> 01:24:26,100 have there or I could do this in the 1857 01:24:31,010 --> 01:24:28,679 future you know and or I could go 1858 01:24:33,709 --> 01:24:31,020 anywhere and do this and I'm actually 1859 01:24:37,310 --> 01:24:33,719 building I'm building a storyboard of 1860 01:24:39,709 --> 01:24:37,320 where I want to go and this this and 1861 01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:39,719 this is done through visualization 1862 01:24:47,810 --> 01:24:44,159 but but it's also done by an absence of 1863 01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:47,820 words or or or or conscious or how would 1864 01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:49,920 I say mental 1865 01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,460 analytical thought it is done by drawing 1866 01:25:01,370 --> 01:24:55,440 pictures 1867 01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:01,380 uh upon this tablet 1868 01:25:08,570 --> 01:25:05,040 by accessing my inner consciousness 1869 01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:08,580 so my Consciousness then is developing a 1870 01:25:13,310 --> 01:25:11,280 scenario of where it wants to go and 1871 01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:13,320 what it wants to see 1872 01:25:19,570 --> 01:25:16,800 are you not specifically 1873 01:25:22,729 --> 01:25:19,580 um uh thinking of an exact date or year 1874 01:25:25,010 --> 01:25:22,739 you could do it but but I usually I'm 1875 01:25:27,290 --> 01:25:25,020 thinking of an incident because I I'm 1876 01:25:29,689 --> 01:25:27,300 not I'm not going to pinpoint exactly 1877 01:25:31,250 --> 01:25:29,699 the the minute and the hour and the in 1878 01:25:33,729 --> 01:25:31,260 the day and the in the city and the 1879 01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:33,739 street you know but just the situation 1880 01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:37,440 and then and then once I've done this 1881 01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:40,800 uh then I I tuck it back into the the 1882 01:25:48,110 --> 01:25:44,880 Deep recesses of my my Consciousness and 1883 01:25:52,250 --> 01:25:48,120 I focus on leaving the body when the 1884 01:25:55,130 --> 01:25:52,260 tablet reappears and so in short I'm 1885 01:25:55,850 --> 01:25:55,140 using visualization 1886 01:25:58,850 --> 01:25:55,860 um 1887 01:26:02,510 --> 01:25:58,860 uh self-hypnosis and then ultimately I'm 1888 01:26:07,310 --> 01:26:02,520 using post hypnosis with a post-hypnotic 1889 01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:07,320 suggestion that when when I do fall fall 1890 01:26:11,450 --> 01:26:08,880 to sleep 1891 01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:11,460 that at that moment the tablet will come 1892 01:26:16,450 --> 01:26:14,040 forward it'll appear in front of my 1893 01:26:19,970 --> 01:26:16,460 mind's eye and that automatically 1894 01:26:22,910 --> 01:26:19,980 triggers me to leave my body and all 1895 01:26:26,090 --> 01:26:22,920 this has been set up and pre-programmed 1896 01:26:30,050 --> 01:26:26,100 and it's important to do this with 1897 01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:30,060 Harmony between your physical self and 1898 01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,239 your inner self in other words your 1899 01:26:39,050 --> 01:26:35,360 analytical brain can't consciously 1900 01:26:42,169 --> 01:26:39,060 Safeguard your where being and and 1901 01:26:44,689 --> 01:26:42,179 protect you by saying oh no we're not 1902 01:26:47,090 --> 01:26:44,699 going there this might be dangerous this 1903 01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:47,100 you know danger Will Robinson so you 1904 01:26:51,830 --> 01:26:49,620 have to in order to do this you have to 1905 01:26:53,810 --> 01:26:51,840 have you have to have permission to 1906 01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:53,820 leave and you need permission from your 1907 01:26:58,970 --> 01:26:56,460 mind so now in Hinduism they call this 1908 01:27:01,370 --> 01:26:58,980 the Slayer is the Slayer of the mind but 1909 01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:01,380 what I think what they want to say is is 1910 01:27:07,550 --> 01:27:03,780 that you have to reach you have to 1911 01:27:10,729 --> 01:27:07,560 convince the mind to let your inner 1912 01:27:13,970 --> 01:27:10,739 higher Consciousness or higher your 1913 01:27:16,610 --> 01:27:13,980 other mind your spirit mind go 1914 01:27:18,770 --> 01:27:16,620 you know so so 1915 01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:18,780 when I do this 1916 01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,040 um effectively I can do it for when I go 1917 01:27:28,250 --> 01:27:25,199 to sleep at night it'll automatically 1918 01:27:31,250 --> 01:27:28,260 trip when I go to sleep if I do it 1919 01:27:33,530 --> 01:27:31,260 carefully methodically and don't miss 1920 01:27:35,149 --> 01:27:33,540 any steps 1921 01:27:36,649 --> 01:27:35,159 um and and it's important that you have 1922 01:27:39,229 --> 01:27:36,659 the intent that you're going to do it 1923 01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:39,239 you focused intent you're going to do 1924 01:27:44,750 --> 01:27:42,239 this I can also do this in a daydream 1925 01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:44,760 and I don't have to be fully asleep I 1926 01:27:49,610 --> 01:27:47,040 could be reclining or you know 1927 01:27:52,430 --> 01:27:49,620 meditating and do this just as easily 1928 01:27:55,250 --> 01:27:52,440 and I find this is what many Mystics in 1929 01:27:58,669 --> 01:27:55,260 the East do there's a whole school of 1930 01:28:01,850 --> 01:27:58,679 yogis called samadi Mystics in in 1931 01:28:04,910 --> 01:28:01,860 samadhi yoga they train their young 1932 01:28:07,970 --> 01:28:04,920 first to have to control their dreams to 1933 01:28:12,850 --> 01:28:07,980 have ex excellent experiences outside 1934 01:28:19,070 --> 01:28:16,790 what if you don't come back yeah what if 1935 01:28:21,410 --> 01:28:19,080 you don't come back so I mean would that 1936 01:28:23,689 --> 01:28:21,420 beep be so bad I mean it's like no more 1937 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,699 no more bills in the mail no here's 1938 01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:25,920 here's here's my I mean that's my 1939 01:28:30,169 --> 01:28:28,560 serious answer what happened what 1940 01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:30,179 happened to Von he's been like that for 1941 01:28:36,169 --> 01:28:33,199 three months you know and 1942 01:28:38,570 --> 01:28:36,179 you don't want to be that guy yeah yeah 1943 01:28:40,430 --> 01:28:38,580 I just I have no like feed the cat if I 1944 01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:40,440 don't get up okay yeah right exactly 1945 01:28:46,850 --> 01:28:44,159 here's here's a here's a list of to-do's 1946 01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:46,860 but you know I think that that if you do 1947 01:28:52,850 --> 01:28:49,199 this right there's never going to be any 1948 01:28:55,129 --> 01:28:52,860 concern because because you feel a 1949 01:28:58,810 --> 01:28:55,139 karmic 1950 01:29:02,450 --> 01:28:58,820 um connection between your physical self 1951 01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:02,460 and your spirit self so your if your 1952 01:29:07,610 --> 01:29:04,440 Consciousness is anywhere outside your 1953 01:29:11,330 --> 01:29:07,620 physical body all it needs to do is 1954 01:29:14,030 --> 01:29:11,340 think back to its physical presence uh 1955 01:29:18,050 --> 01:29:14,040 in in a particular time and place and 1956 01:29:19,790 --> 01:29:18,060 you'll snap back with alarming speed the 1957 01:29:21,950 --> 01:29:19,800 the only thing to worry about is really 1958 01:29:25,250 --> 01:29:21,960 is how quickly you'll snap back that can 1959 01:29:29,410 --> 01:29:28,250 the trick is if I'm understanding you 1960 01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:29,420 correctly 1961 01:29:36,830 --> 01:29:33,960 is you have to have an absolute Quiet 1962 01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:36,840 Mind you can't be thinking about your 1963 01:29:42,590 --> 01:29:39,780 rent your car payment right you can't be 1964 01:29:46,370 --> 01:29:42,600 thinking about any you have to have the 1965 01:29:49,729 --> 01:29:46,380 quiet mind you've got it but how do you 1966 01:29:52,970 --> 01:29:49,739 how do you I I I I have problems with 1967 01:29:54,530 --> 01:29:52,980 that and the way that I quiet my mind 1968 01:29:56,330 --> 01:29:54,540 because man I'm thinking about 1969 01:29:59,090 --> 01:29:56,340 tomorrow's show I'm thinking about what 1970 01:30:01,430 --> 01:29:59,100 just happened tonight with Vaughn and 1971 01:30:04,729 --> 01:30:01,440 how I asked the wrong questions and you 1972 01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:04,739 know what I mean my mind is is going and 1973 01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:07,920 and if I don't quiet my mind I won't go 1974 01:30:13,970 --> 01:30:11,760 to sleep I I'll I'll be an insomniac 1975 01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:13,980 well that's the key you've got to quiet 1976 01:30:19,250 --> 01:30:15,840 your mind or you can't you can't rest 1977 01:30:21,950 --> 01:30:19,260 you know and you and if you don't if you 1978 01:30:24,410 --> 01:30:21,960 don't seriously rest you're not going to 1979 01:30:27,070 --> 01:30:24,420 be able to have a lucid dream because 1980 01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:27,080 what you're going to have is a fitful 1981 01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:29,340 angry dream where you're tossing and 1982 01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:31,920 turning in your sleep and you have those 1983 01:30:37,370 --> 01:30:35,040 terrible nightmares where well you're 1984 01:30:39,470 --> 01:30:37,380 frankly thinking of everything that that 1985 01:30:42,110 --> 01:30:39,480 you didn't resolve today all the 1986 01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:42,120 questions you couldn't resolve all of 1987 01:30:47,390 --> 01:30:44,880 the problems that are are like heavy 1988 01:30:50,570 --> 01:30:47,400 baggage on your back you're thinking of 1989 01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:50,580 of everything that happens tomorrow in 1990 01:30:55,790 --> 01:30:53,040 the uncertainty and the worries of of 1991 01:30:57,229 --> 01:30:55,800 what happens next and so there are so 1992 01:31:00,770 --> 01:30:57,239 many things going through your brain 1993 01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,780 that you can't shut it down and so it 1994 01:31:04,729 --> 01:31:02,639 just keeps going and so it keeps 1995 01:31:07,550 --> 01:31:04,739 grinding and grinding away even though 1996 01:31:09,890 --> 01:31:07,560 you think you're resting in asleep your 1997 01:31:11,870 --> 01:31:09,900 mind is still grinding and grinding in a 1998 01:31:13,729 --> 01:31:11,880 way and you know you'll toss and you'll 1999 01:31:16,669 --> 01:31:13,739 turn you'll kick your legs and you roll 2000 01:31:21,709 --> 01:31:16,679 in bed and you have these fitful fitful 2001 01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:21,719 absolutely horrible dreams of just of of 2002 01:31:27,709 --> 01:31:25,199 going over unresolved questions that 2003 01:31:30,350 --> 01:31:27,719 that perplex you no those are not the 2004 01:31:31,490 --> 01:31:30,360 dreams we're talking about right lucid 2005 01:31:34,910 --> 01:31:31,500 dreams there's something quite different 2006 01:31:36,350 --> 01:31:34,920 now the Ancients they actually did Dream 2007 01:31:39,890 --> 01:31:36,360 Work where they would actually have 2008 01:31:42,890 --> 01:31:39,900 dream temples in Mesopotamia and Assyria 2009 01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:42,900 and Babylonia and onward to Egypt and 2010 01:31:48,530 --> 01:31:45,840 even to Greece they had dream temples 2011 01:31:51,050 --> 01:31:48,540 where people would go and have dream 2012 01:31:53,330 --> 01:31:51,060 encounters and people would set them up 2013 01:31:55,610 --> 01:31:53,340 and somebody would almost like a spa 2014 01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:55,620 they'd come to you and they'd help you 2015 01:32:02,870 --> 01:31:59,520 you know achieve a quiet place and and 2016 01:32:05,810 --> 01:32:02,880 steal your mind so that you could have a 2017 01:32:07,790 --> 01:32:05,820 meaningful dream and and this has been a 2018 01:32:10,010 --> 01:32:07,800 lot of traditions you know in the 2019 01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:10,020 Buddhist tradition that today even today 2020 01:32:17,390 --> 01:32:13,440 there is the tradition of of dream yoga 2021 01:32:21,290 --> 01:32:17,400 as a meaningful way of learning things 2022 01:32:25,129 --> 01:32:21,300 and then the Islamic faith as well you 2023 01:32:27,770 --> 01:32:25,139 know so so there are are many examples 2024 01:32:29,450 --> 01:32:27,780 throughout history of people who have 2025 01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:29,460 used dreams 2026 01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:34,800 to uh to reveal uh insights of the past 2027 01:32:40,669 --> 01:32:36,800 and the future 2028 01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:40,679 I have his knees coming on okay keep 2029 01:32:45,350 --> 01:32:43,800 talking just just oh okay so so I I 2030 01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:45,360 think it's really important that we do 2031 01:32:52,250 --> 01:32:48,780 dream work and and and and and DreamWork 2032 01:32:55,310 --> 01:32:52,260 is just actually uh mining the 2033 01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:55,320 possibilities in your own dreams and 2034 01:33:00,290 --> 01:32:57,840 actually having meaningful dreams and 2035 01:33:02,930 --> 01:33:00,300 when I say lucid dreams I mean 2036 01:33:07,729 --> 01:33:02,940 insightful dreams I mean vivid dreams 2037 01:33:10,729 --> 01:33:07,739 dreams where you actually have uh 2038 01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:10,739 um you you leave with with a lot of 2039 01:33:15,709 --> 01:33:13,440 information and a lot of ideas and 2040 01:33:18,530 --> 01:33:15,719 you're just so excited that you get up 2041 01:33:19,870 --> 01:33:18,540 and you want to write it down in a in a 2042 01:33:23,090 --> 01:33:19,880 diary 2043 01:33:24,709 --> 01:33:23,100 it's Vivid now and by the way I didn't 2044 01:33:28,330 --> 01:33:24,719 sneeze so I'll give you the warning when 2045 01:33:31,070 --> 01:33:28,340 I cut one okay but 2046 01:33:33,010 --> 01:33:31,080 astral you're still in your body in a 2047 01:33:38,209 --> 01:33:33,020 lucid dream 2048 01:33:41,209 --> 01:33:38,219 yeah now see when I think of is 2049 01:33:43,550 --> 01:33:41,219 as far as time shifting and also lucid 2050 01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:43,560 dreaming is that if you do it right it's 2051 01:33:48,890 --> 01:33:46,560 more than just astral traveling because 2052 01:33:51,470 --> 01:33:48,900 you know astral is like your emotional 2053 01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:51,480 body it also it takes in into 2054 01:33:57,530 --> 01:33:54,719 consideration other energy bodies which 2055 01:34:00,370 --> 01:33:57,540 we all have in our causal body our 2056 01:34:04,250 --> 01:34:00,380 spiritual body our our our our our 2057 01:34:06,890 --> 01:34:04,260 mental body and taking all of that with 2058 01:34:08,410 --> 01:34:06,900 you except for your physical body which 2059 01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:08,420 lies there 2060 01:34:14,990 --> 01:34:11,040 lies in the state you know peaceful 2061 01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:15,000 quiet at rest and protected so it's very 2062 01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:17,040 important when you have a dream like 2063 01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:18,480 that because you're going to be so out 2064 01:34:25,070 --> 01:34:21,600 of it that you are in a very safe quiet 2065 01:34:27,290 --> 01:34:25,080 place now an example of this is in India 2066 01:34:30,169 --> 01:34:27,300 in Indonesia when they had the big 2067 01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:30,179 tsunami a few years back and this hit 2068 01:34:36,970 --> 01:34:32,760 Indonesia and Southern India very hard 2069 01:34:41,709 --> 01:34:36,980 and in India there were many teachers 2070 01:34:45,790 --> 01:34:41,719 with students in samadhi mysticism 2071 01:34:48,050 --> 01:34:45,800 samadhi yoga who had 2072 01:34:49,550 --> 01:34:48,060 progressed with their students to the 2073 01:34:53,450 --> 01:34:49,560 point where they would leave their body 2074 01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:53,460 for prolonged periods of exploration 2075 01:35:00,350 --> 01:34:56,719 Beyond time and space and they worried 2076 01:35:04,490 --> 01:35:00,360 when some of them were in their dream 2077 01:35:07,610 --> 01:35:04,500 lucid dream cycles that what to do with 2078 01:35:09,530 --> 01:35:07,620 them during the tsunami could they just 2079 01:35:11,689 --> 01:35:09,540 pick them up and carry them should they 2080 01:35:13,490 --> 01:35:11,699 leave them alone right should they you 2081 01:35:15,169 --> 01:35:13,500 know what they and and some of them were 2082 01:35:19,370 --> 01:35:15,179 gone for three days 2083 01:35:22,669 --> 01:35:19,380 and um this is no exaggeration you know 2084 01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:22,679 people can be gone in a in a lucid dream 2085 01:35:28,129 --> 01:35:25,199 if it's really well thought out a long 2086 01:35:30,290 --> 01:35:28,139 long time and be very safe there 2087 01:35:33,050 --> 01:35:30,300 but you have to you have to think about 2088 01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:33,060 the safety part you know am I really in 2089 01:35:37,610 --> 01:35:35,520 a safe room you know if there's a fire 2090 01:35:39,950 --> 01:35:37,620 will somebody come and get me right 2091 01:35:41,629 --> 01:35:39,960 right yeah that sort of thing yeah you 2092 01:35:43,970 --> 01:35:41,639 don't want you don't want the police to 2093 01:35:46,970 --> 01:35:43,980 show up the fire department and you're 2094 01:35:50,090 --> 01:35:46,980 in your boxers you know no no with an 2095 01:35:52,970 --> 01:35:50,100 eye mask on yeah you know in a deep 2096 01:35:55,010 --> 01:35:52,980 lucid dream but do you ever get 2097 01:35:59,570 --> 01:35:55,020 recognized 2098 01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,580 right yeah yeah absolutely so yeah so 2099 01:36:04,850 --> 01:36:02,400 what what happens is if you keep doing 2100 01:36:07,850 --> 01:36:04,860 this long enough yeah and methodically 2101 01:36:10,490 --> 01:36:07,860 you will eventually uh have some 2102 01:36:12,169 --> 01:36:10,500 recognition of people you see there and 2103 01:36:13,790 --> 01:36:12,179 you'll see that unlike a Freudian dream 2104 01:36:15,490 --> 01:36:13,800 you're not just seeing yourself playing 2105 01:36:18,290 --> 01:36:15,500 all the parts you're actually 2106 01:36:19,910 --> 01:36:18,300 encountering real people and they're 2107 01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:19,920 very very likely people that are 2108 01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:22,560 dreaming they're in the Dreamscape with 2109 01:36:26,870 --> 01:36:24,719 you and I started having dreams where I 2110 01:36:28,850 --> 01:36:26,880 would be dreaming and then and then 2111 01:36:31,490 --> 01:36:28,860 other people would be in the same dream 2112 01:36:34,910 --> 01:36:31,500 I think one typical dream people have is 2113 01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:34,920 that you're we're in a in a in a room 2114 01:36:40,010 --> 01:36:37,199 you know called off in the upper room 2115 01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,020 and that where you're all like 2116 01:36:44,270 --> 01:36:42,719 um in a circle on the floor and then a 2117 01:36:45,470 --> 01:36:44,280 great teacher comes out and says 2118 01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:45,480 something to you 2119 01:36:50,209 --> 01:36:48,239 and and that's a very common dream that 2120 01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,219 people have called The Upper Room dream 2121 01:36:55,790 --> 01:36:52,560 and and I and I've had dreams where 2122 01:36:58,189 --> 01:36:55,800 where I would encounter people and they 2123 01:37:00,050 --> 01:36:58,199 and they wouldn't seem to they'd be kind 2124 01:37:02,750 --> 01:37:00,060 of oblivious to everything around them 2125 01:37:04,610 --> 01:37:02,760 you know like they didn't think that any 2126 01:37:07,250 --> 01:37:04,620 of it was real you know 2127 01:37:09,649 --> 01:37:07,260 because they were not not accustomed to 2128 01:37:12,050 --> 01:37:09,659 having that kind of a of a lucid dream I 2129 01:37:14,689 --> 01:37:12,060 remember talking to one man and we were 2130 01:37:18,410 --> 01:37:14,699 standing outside in the rain at in the 2131 01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:18,420 dark in a very specific time and place 2132 01:37:24,110 --> 01:37:21,360 and I said to him you do realize you're 2133 01:37:26,209 --> 01:37:24,120 dreaming don't you and he goes ah 2134 01:37:27,770 --> 01:37:26,219 you're right and he disappeared in front 2135 01:37:29,570 --> 01:37:27,780 of my eyes of course he disappeared 2136 01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:29,580 because he went back into his body you 2137 01:37:35,870 --> 01:37:30,320 know 2138 01:37:37,550 --> 01:37:35,880 so those yeah I mean thought if uh okay 2139 01:37:40,850 --> 01:37:37,560 I I've often thought that the movie 2140 01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:40,860 Inception was more of a documentary yeah 2141 01:37:46,750 --> 01:37:43,679 than it was science fiction 2142 01:37:51,050 --> 01:37:46,760 um and and I questioned that part of it 2143 01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:51,060 dreaming within a dream yeah what if you 2144 01:37:57,070 --> 01:37:54,000 what what happens then 2145 01:38:00,110 --> 01:37:57,080 and and it's it's got I haven't done it 2146 01:38:03,229 --> 01:38:00,120 but I've often thought about that and I 2147 01:38:05,450 --> 01:38:03,239 think that the uh you know going down 2148 01:38:08,030 --> 01:38:05,460 one more layer okay let's get into that 2149 01:38:11,570 --> 01:38:08,040 level yeah and now we fall asleep again 2150 01:38:12,950 --> 01:38:11,580 yeah into another level of dreaming yeah 2151 01:38:15,770 --> 01:38:12,960 do you do that 2152 01:38:18,110 --> 01:38:15,780 I haven't had that experience exactly 2153 01:38:20,149 --> 01:38:18,120 but but I do understand 2154 01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:20,159 um how it could happen 2155 01:38:24,590 --> 01:38:22,380 um I think that I think that when you're 2156 01:38:27,649 --> 01:38:24,600 you're in a in a very 2157 01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:27,659 a very impactful lucid dream and it's 2158 01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:30,480 very intense uh that you can return to 2159 01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:33,600 that dream and and go deeper deeper into 2160 01:38:39,530 --> 01:38:36,239 the dream uh and experience that on 2161 01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:39,540 different levels and and and prolong the 2162 01:38:45,770 --> 01:38:41,280 experience 2163 01:38:48,169 --> 01:38:45,780 um but but as far as um going I think 2164 01:38:51,770 --> 01:38:48,179 that many people think that when they 2165 01:38:53,930 --> 01:38:51,780 dream you know they're they're no longer 2166 01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:53,940 awake and and I would just put out to 2167 01:38:58,250 --> 01:38:56,159 the folks out there listening that maybe 2168 01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,260 it's the reverse is true maybe you're 2169 01:39:02,590 --> 01:39:00,480 fully awake when you're dreaming 2170 01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,600 well 2171 01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:04,560 I think 2172 01:39:08,209 --> 01:39:06,719 I'm not sure I can't wait to hear your 2173 01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:08,219 response 2174 01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:12,239 I I don't know what a dream actually is 2175 01:39:16,970 --> 01:39:14,000 I don't think we're using the right word 2176 01:39:20,750 --> 01:39:16,980 that's just the word that we have in our 2177 01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:20,760 Modern English vocabulary agreed I I 2178 01:39:27,169 --> 01:39:24,960 think it's just another reality I think 2179 01:39:30,350 --> 01:39:27,179 you're right I think you're right and so 2180 01:39:31,850 --> 01:39:30,360 the beauty of this is if you get really 2181 01:39:33,709 --> 01:39:31,860 good at shifting into these other 2182 01:39:36,290 --> 01:39:33,719 realities into what we're calling your 2183 01:39:38,570 --> 01:39:36,300 lucid dreams which is kind of a silly 2184 01:39:40,490 --> 01:39:38,580 title but we'll keep using that term 2185 01:39:42,530 --> 01:39:40,500 because people get it 2186 01:39:45,649 --> 01:39:42,540 um that you can go into any alternate 2187 01:39:47,270 --> 01:39:45,659 reality that is not a specific one like 2188 01:39:49,250 --> 01:39:47,280 you were five years old and you lived in 2189 01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:49,260 the city and you hear these people and 2190 01:39:53,689 --> 01:39:50,880 you're going to relive this experience 2191 01:39:54,649 --> 01:39:53,699 you can do that you know but what's the 2192 01:39:56,810 --> 01:39:54,659 point 2193 01:40:01,070 --> 01:39:56,820 wouldn't you really rather explore 2194 01:40:03,410 --> 01:40:01,080 alternate realities alternate worlds 2195 01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:03,420 alternate universes 2196 01:40:09,290 --> 01:40:06,560 alternate identities you know maybe 2197 01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:09,300 you're going to find yourself living in 2198 01:40:13,430 --> 01:40:11,280 a parallel world 2199 01:40:16,490 --> 01:40:13,440 you know that's that's an interesting 2200 01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:16,500 situation and and frankly I've been 2201 01:40:19,790 --> 01:40:18,719 there and it's it's kind of like what 2202 01:40:21,830 --> 01:40:19,800 are you doing here what are you doing 2203 01:40:23,870 --> 01:40:21,840 here and I said I think you're having 2204 01:40:25,490 --> 01:40:23,880 more fun than I'm having and I said well 2205 01:40:28,430 --> 01:40:25,500 yeah I don't take myself so seriously 2206 01:40:31,250 --> 01:40:28,440 here you have these odd experiences like 2207 01:40:32,689 --> 01:40:31,260 you're meeting somebody you know in a in 2208 01:40:35,629 --> 01:40:32,699 a group where you're networking or 2209 01:40:36,350 --> 01:40:35,639 you're on vacation you're saying well 2210 01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:36,360 um 2211 01:40:41,090 --> 01:40:38,639 how do you like the weather here you 2212 01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:45,770 jeez one of my favorite uh time travel 2213 01:40:50,450 --> 01:40:48,840 stories and and there's so many uh great 2214 01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:50,460 ones out there 2215 01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:52,800 um but I I think and I could have this 2216 01:40:57,290 --> 01:40:54,719 wrong 2217 01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:57,300 um I've heard it told so many different 2218 01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,719 ways uh two or three sisters are in 2219 01:41:06,890 --> 01:41:03,199 France in 1930 2220 01:41:08,270 --> 01:41:06,900 and uh they're visiting a palace they're 2221 01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:08,280 going across the ground sort of looking 2222 01:41:11,470 --> 01:41:09,840 at the flowers and they're doing this 2223 01:41:14,450 --> 01:41:11,480 and they get separated from their family 2224 01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:14,460 come over a hill and there's a mansion 2225 01:41:21,530 --> 01:41:17,760 that is there yeah and uh there's a 2226 01:41:25,490 --> 01:41:21,540 party going on yeah and and they notice 2227 01:41:28,430 --> 01:41:25,500 that there's no cars right it's like 2228 01:41:31,330 --> 01:41:28,440 horse and Buggies and parasols it didn't 2229 01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:31,340 match where they were 2230 01:41:36,530 --> 01:41:35,040 and the the story is because they they 2231 01:41:39,310 --> 01:41:36,540 go back and they tell everyone hey man 2232 01:41:43,250 --> 01:41:39,320 there's a party going on yeah 2233 01:41:47,169 --> 01:41:43,260 and they go back and in the Mansion was 2234 01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:47,179 empty right okay so 2235 01:41:51,950 --> 01:41:50,159 let's say they don't go back to their 2236 01:41:54,290 --> 01:41:51,960 family yeah 2237 01:41:57,770 --> 01:41:54,300 and they continue walking into that 2238 01:42:00,890 --> 01:41:57,780 party yeah do they 2239 01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:00,900 are are they invisible right right yeah 2240 01:42:06,530 --> 01:42:03,360 yeah they're they're not noticed by the 2241 01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:06,540 other people usually they the other 2242 01:42:10,750 --> 01:42:08,159 people are in 2243 01:42:13,550 --> 01:42:10,760 are in their own world their own time 2244 01:42:16,490 --> 01:42:13,560 and their own up you know their own 2245 01:42:19,790 --> 01:42:16,500 reality their own perception so most 2246 01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,800 often they will not see the other people 2247 01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:21,600 I mean the other people will not see 2248 01:42:26,510 --> 01:42:23,520 them is what I'm trying to say you've 2249 01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:26,520 heard this story right yeah yeah yeah it 2250 01:42:32,169 --> 01:42:29,280 comes from you know in and it has real 2251 01:42:35,149 --> 01:42:32,179 basis in fact and it's a well-documented 2252 01:42:37,850 --> 01:42:35,159 uh case of time travel often called the 2253 01:42:40,850 --> 01:42:37,860 gold standard and it is two ladies from 2254 01:42:43,250 --> 01:42:40,860 Oxford University oh okay they weren't 2255 01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:43,260 sisters no but no they were colleagues 2256 01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:45,119 they were both professors and they were 2257 01:42:50,750 --> 01:42:48,000 they were Charlotte Moberly who ran a 2258 01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:50,760 women's college at Oxford University and 2259 01:42:55,850 --> 01:42:54,000 her colleague Eleanor Jordan and they 2260 01:42:58,370 --> 01:42:55,860 were visiting the Palace of Versailles 2261 01:43:01,370 --> 01:42:58,380 and this is shortly into the 20th 2262 01:43:05,209 --> 01:43:01,380 century and they found on the day they 2263 01:43:07,790 --> 01:43:05,219 went that the grand Trianon Garden was 2264 01:43:10,129 --> 01:43:07,800 closed and so they were so disappointed 2265 01:43:12,590 --> 01:43:10,139 but they wandered around and they 2266 01:43:15,229 --> 01:43:12,600 noticed it wasn't a busy day the place 2267 01:43:16,010 --> 01:43:15,239 was pretty much closed on the day they 2268 01:43:18,770 --> 01:43:16,020 went 2269 01:43:21,410 --> 01:43:18,780 but they found a little a little garden 2270 01:43:24,109 --> 01:43:21,420 that was actually open and it was called 2271 01:43:26,450 --> 01:43:24,119 a petite Trianon and they went inside 2272 01:43:29,149 --> 01:43:26,460 and they went over a little Bridge 2273 01:43:32,090 --> 01:43:29,159 and there was a man in the costume there 2274 01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,100 and they walked right by him and there 2275 01:43:37,310 --> 01:43:34,080 were people all wearing elaborate 2276 01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:37,320 costumes and there was one woman who was 2277 01:43:43,910 --> 01:43:41,040 seated and she had a an easel in front 2278 01:43:45,290 --> 01:43:43,920 of her and she was painting a picture of 2279 01:43:47,810 --> 01:43:45,300 the little garden 2280 01:43:51,169 --> 01:43:47,820 and she was very intent on doing this 2281 01:43:53,530 --> 01:43:51,179 and to the two women from Oxford the 2282 01:43:57,229 --> 01:43:53,540 whole thing seemed strangely out of time 2283 01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,239 also nobody seemed to recognize them or 2284 01:44:02,209 --> 01:43:59,280 even acknowledge them it's like they 2285 01:44:05,149 --> 01:44:02,219 just wandered in and were invisible and 2286 01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:05,159 they thought these were actors or a 2287 01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,719 costume yeah they thought it was a 2288 01:44:10,850 --> 01:44:08,880 costume party so these two ladies they 2289 01:44:12,770 --> 01:44:10,860 said that was crazy they told people 2290 01:44:14,750 --> 01:44:12,780 about it and people said well I never 2291 01:44:17,330 --> 01:44:14,760 heard anything like that you know so 2292 01:44:20,090 --> 01:44:17,340 they returned several times but it was 2293 01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,100 never that the same way never never 2294 01:44:25,070 --> 01:44:22,320 again it happened only once and the 2295 01:44:27,649 --> 01:44:25,080 women were like like Blown Away by their 2296 01:44:30,890 --> 01:44:27,659 experience so they decided to publish 2297 01:44:33,229 --> 01:44:30,900 their account about a decade after it 2298 01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:33,239 happened and they wrote this famous book 2299 01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:37,199 called an adventure and then a new group 2300 01:44:42,590 --> 01:44:40,080 had just been formed in London called 2301 01:44:44,930 --> 01:44:42,600 the British Society for psychical 2302 01:44:48,350 --> 01:44:44,940 research and they investigated the 2303 01:44:50,930 --> 01:44:48,360 reports the women and they found that 2304 01:44:53,149 --> 01:44:50,940 there was actually a bridge where they 2305 01:44:55,609 --> 01:44:53,159 said there was a bridge and that there 2306 01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:55,619 had been Garden parties with elaborate 2307 01:45:01,250 --> 01:44:58,080 costumes back in time 2308 01:45:03,649 --> 01:45:01,260 and and then they found out that the 2309 01:45:06,169 --> 01:45:03,659 time that they were describing was the 2310 01:45:08,510 --> 01:45:06,179 time of Marie Antoinette who actually 2311 01:45:11,709 --> 01:45:08,520 was famous for having Garden parties 2312 01:45:15,370 --> 01:45:11,719 where everyone dressed in costumes 2313 01:45:18,649 --> 01:45:15,380 and these were moral these were 2314 01:45:21,770 --> 01:45:18,659 organized by a poet they that she knew 2315 01:45:24,649 --> 01:45:21,780 called Robert Montague and he loved 2316 01:45:26,330 --> 01:45:24,659 having everybody dress in costume and 2317 01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:26,340 she would just love sitting out there 2318 01:45:31,070 --> 01:45:29,520 during these Garden parties and painting 2319 01:45:34,010 --> 01:45:31,080 and um 2320 01:45:36,350 --> 01:45:34,020 so they found out that this this 2321 01:45:38,810 --> 01:45:36,360 actually everything they reported was 2322 01:45:41,090 --> 01:45:38,820 was true but but there was no way the 2323 01:45:42,830 --> 01:45:41,100 ladies could have known about the bridge 2324 01:45:45,649 --> 01:45:42,840 and they might have known about the 2325 01:45:47,570 --> 01:45:45,659 costumes but you know the bridge no 2326 01:45:49,490 --> 01:45:47,580 nobody knew about the bridge because the 2327 01:45:51,709 --> 01:45:49,500 bridge had been gone for a long long 2328 01:45:54,290 --> 01:45:51,719 time and this little Footbridge they 2329 01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:54,300 described was not a very significant 2330 01:45:58,790 --> 01:45:55,500 piece 2331 01:46:00,010 --> 01:45:58,800 uh what year uh did the actual event 2332 01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:00,020 take place 2333 01:46:08,689 --> 01:46:04,080 1901 0-1 okay and they wrote the book in 2334 01:46:11,290 --> 01:46:08,699 1911. 11. yes okay and that's a very 2335 01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,300 famous case and there have been many uh 2336 01:46:16,270 --> 01:46:14,400 similar stories and and and and and and 2337 01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:16,280 and actually 2338 01:46:22,490 --> 01:46:18,960 Recreations of what they've done as far 2339 01:46:24,370 --> 01:46:22,500 as like dramatizations and stories about 2340 01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:24,380 them 2341 01:46:29,390 --> 01:46:27,360 that's a good one well it's especially 2342 01:46:31,910 --> 01:46:29,400 when you have like two credible Women 2343 01:46:34,370 --> 01:46:31,920 College professors right and and they 2344 01:46:36,649 --> 01:46:34,380 experience it together you know and they 2345 01:46:38,750 --> 01:46:36,659 their story never ever changed you know 2346 01:46:42,890 --> 01:46:38,760 so you have collaboration you have 2347 01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:42,900 authenticity reliable sources you know 2348 01:46:48,350 --> 01:46:46,320 and then they documented it then it was 2349 01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,360 studied in in what they reported was 2350 01:46:54,229 --> 01:46:50,400 found to be true 2351 01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,239 and it did did it ever did the story 2352 01:46:57,850 --> 01:46:56,159 itself ever change 2353 01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:57,860 no no no 2354 01:47:04,970 --> 01:47:01,920 right wow that's incredible I was close 2355 01:47:07,790 --> 01:47:04,980 I've heard it I was close 2356 01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:07,800 um but yeah that's uh so it was first I 2357 01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:09,920 wrote everything down it was Versailles 2358 01:47:15,709 --> 01:47:12,719 and the book is called an adventure an 2359 01:47:18,169 --> 01:47:15,719 adventure yeah 1911. 2360 01:47:21,830 --> 01:47:18,179 yeah you know it's like the the the the 2361 01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:21,840 the the fence strip Dr Fitz you know or 2362 01:47:26,450 --> 01:47:24,480 the or uh 2363 01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:26,460 air marshall Goddard you know these are 2364 01:47:32,209 --> 01:47:29,280 like documented cases they had some 2365 01:47:35,209 --> 01:47:32,219 investigation behind them there was a 2366 01:47:37,370 --> 01:47:35,219 report the government report a follow-up 2367 01:47:41,330 --> 01:47:37,380 investigation there was some 2368 01:47:43,970 --> 01:47:41,340 collaboration involved some uh some the 2369 01:47:47,950 --> 01:47:43,980 the the the people telling the stories 2370 01:47:53,530 --> 01:47:49,910 who was 2371 01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:53,540 um oh man I had other important stuff uh 2372 01:48:02,629 --> 01:47:57,600 uh but for some reason what about the 2373 01:48:05,209 --> 01:48:02,639 case of the Wall Street investor 2374 01:48:08,209 --> 01:48:05,219 right he comes in and he does a bunch of 2375 01:48:10,850 --> 01:48:08,219 Trades he gets caught yeah and then he 2376 01:48:12,890 --> 01:48:10,860 gets bailed out of jail and then 2377 01:48:16,189 --> 01:48:12,900 disappears 2378 01:48:18,189 --> 01:48:16,199 yeah do you know that case I don't know 2379 01:48:22,250 --> 01:48:18,199 that case okay 2380 01:48:25,010 --> 01:48:22,260 that's a good one well I don't have the 2381 01:48:26,750 --> 01:48:25,020 specifics in front of me I've I've read 2382 01:48:28,490 --> 01:48:26,760 about it so many times this is a modern 2383 01:48:31,129 --> 01:48:28,500 case 2384 01:48:35,629 --> 01:48:31,139 um and uh so 2385 01:48:40,490 --> 01:48:35,639 he he comes in he trades 2386 01:48:43,250 --> 01:48:40,500 he trades I think for about a month wow 2387 01:48:46,250 --> 01:48:43,260 30 days but 2388 01:48:51,649 --> 01:48:46,260 um and in in a modern sense right it is 2389 01:48:53,570 --> 01:48:51,659 I I want to say 1980 85 this went down 2390 01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:53,580 um uh but 2391 01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:56,940 his trades were 100 accurate 2392 01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:00,239 so he gets investigated and he turns 2393 01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:04,080 around and and tells the FED it's a 2394 01:49:12,910 --> 01:49:08,400 federal arrest tells the feds hey man 2395 01:49:19,970 --> 01:49:16,910 and and then I think I think he had his 2396 01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:19,980 bail set they had his name they had his 2397 01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:22,320 address and and everything else and then 2398 01:49:25,970 --> 01:49:24,239 I think that it turned out that there 2399 01:49:27,590 --> 01:49:25,980 was no historical record for him 2400 01:49:33,169 --> 01:49:27,600 anywhere 2401 01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:36,050 you know I I think that it it's probably 2402 01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:38,460 unlikely that he actually realized any 2403 01:49:43,550 --> 01:49:41,040 benefit from it because then he 2404 01:49:45,770 --> 01:49:43,560 disappeared 2405 01:49:47,450 --> 01:49:45,780 um it was probably 2406 01:49:48,649 --> 01:49:47,460 in a sense 2407 01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:48,659 um 2408 01:49:54,649 --> 01:49:52,560 well isn't that not real if if you're a 2409 01:49:56,810 --> 01:49:54,659 time traveler yeah 2410 01:50:01,490 --> 01:49:56,820 you don't want to get caught 2411 01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:01,500 I get caught so you've got to dress in 2412 01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:04,560 the period right yeah well what was most 2413 01:50:10,430 --> 01:50:06,719 people that successfully travel in time 2414 01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:10,440 in in body you know they they do not 2415 01:50:15,530 --> 01:50:12,960 have like hands that can hold things or 2416 01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:15,540 pins they can write checks or they don't 2417 01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:18,000 have bank accounts you know so are there 2418 01:50:22,850 --> 01:50:19,440 certain things that you're you're just 2419 01:50:25,490 --> 01:50:22,860 basically a a a a traveler just passing 2420 01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,500 through you know and and to think that 2421 01:50:31,609 --> 01:50:27,360 you could actually you could actually 2422 01:50:32,750 --> 01:50:31,619 change history or or or or or or game 2423 01:50:36,410 --> 01:50:32,760 the system 2424 01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:36,420 by by having some you know physical 2425 01:50:41,149 --> 01:50:38,159 bearing 2426 01:50:43,129 --> 01:50:41,159 uh on the situation 2427 01:50:46,669 --> 01:50:43,139 um seems 2428 01:50:48,109 --> 01:50:46,679 unlikely but but but we know we know 2429 01:50:50,510 --> 01:50:48,119 that people have done it you know there 2430 01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,520 have been there have been reported cases 2431 01:50:53,810 --> 01:50:52,800 you know 2432 01:50:57,050 --> 01:50:53,820 um 2433 01:50:59,629 --> 01:50:57,060 there is there is you know in Hinduism 2434 01:51:01,129 --> 01:50:59,639 there's the principle that you can I'm 2435 01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:01,139 not sure I'm going to say this quite 2436 01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:03,840 right but there there is a Sutra where 2437 01:51:08,209 --> 01:51:06,480 you can actually you can actually study 2438 01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,219 something long enough that it disappears 2439 01:51:12,169 --> 01:51:10,800 and the idea is that if you concentrate 2440 01:51:15,950 --> 01:51:12,179 long enough 2441 01:51:18,970 --> 01:51:15,960 on on your personality your person you 2442 01:51:21,890 --> 01:51:18,980 can disappear you know and and then 2443 01:51:23,870 --> 01:51:21,900 conversely you could actually you can 2444 01:51:26,750 --> 01:51:23,880 actually focus on something though so 2445 01:51:29,629 --> 01:51:26,760 that it's Paramount and Larger than Life 2446 01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:29,639 which would be true of yourself 2447 01:51:35,930 --> 01:51:31,920 you know and I think that this is kind 2448 01:51:38,990 --> 01:51:35,940 of a key to how people become invisible 2449 01:51:41,570 --> 01:51:39,000 how they bilocate how they relocate and 2450 01:51:44,330 --> 01:51:41,580 how they move through time you know I 2451 01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:44,340 think that there is a way to do this and 2452 01:51:50,090 --> 01:51:47,040 it's it's and I think it it 2453 01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:50,100 I have to believe that it it is 2454 01:51:56,810 --> 01:51:53,040 dependent on a person's ability to 2455 01:52:01,450 --> 01:51:56,820 achieve a high level of conscious 2456 01:52:07,090 --> 01:52:05,510 I'm Gonna Leave You with uh this very 2457 01:52:10,270 --> 01:52:07,100 simple question 2458 01:52:15,649 --> 01:52:10,280 best time travel movie 2459 01:52:18,590 --> 01:52:16,729 what's 2460 01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:18,600 oh right now or 2461 01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:22,080 oh yeah I mean nobody cares about my 2462 01:52:28,729 --> 01:52:25,800 opinion Vaughn they're here for yours 2463 01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:28,739 well I I'm a romantic so I have to say 2464 01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:30,719 Somewhere in Time it's so beautiful oh 2465 01:52:38,390 --> 01:52:35,280 so good it was so beautiful and and and 2466 01:52:39,950 --> 01:52:38,400 and and Jane Seymour today it seems 2467 01:52:42,290 --> 01:52:39,960 Timeless when you look at her because 2468 01:52:45,470 --> 01:52:42,300 you remember that movie you know when 2469 01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:45,480 you think of of what happened to uh uh 2470 01:52:50,930 --> 01:52:48,960 what Christopher was his name uh the the 2471 01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:50,940 actor who played the other part and died 2472 01:52:55,450 --> 01:52:53,520 yeah right right his spinal injury from 2473 01:52:58,609 --> 01:52:55,460 riding a horse and you think like oh 2474 01:53:00,530 --> 01:52:58,619 forever Christopher Reeves he'll always 2475 01:53:03,410 --> 01:53:00,540 be that young person in the movie 2476 01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:03,420 because it was Timeless you know it was 2477 01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:06,000 absolutely timeless it was it was a 2478 01:53:12,109 --> 01:53:08,880 beautifully done story and I I have to 2479 01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:12,119 think that whoever wrote this or I had 2480 01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:14,639 put a lot of thought into it because it 2481 01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:17,040 seems to me that it's kind of legit oh 2482 01:53:21,950 --> 01:53:19,199 man if you just cry like a little baby 2483 01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:21,960 in that man and yeah and here's the 2484 01:53:27,590 --> 01:53:25,199 thing with that that's one of the best 2485 01:53:30,729 --> 01:53:27,600 time travel movies but it's not Jane 2486 01:53:34,629 --> 01:53:30,739 Seymour's best movie 2487 01:53:38,590 --> 01:53:34,639 best movie I happen to watch last night 2488 01:53:43,609 --> 01:53:38,600 ooh head office with Judge Reinhold 2489 01:53:46,669 --> 01:53:43,619 1985. Jane Seymour oh man 2490 01:53:50,750 --> 01:53:46,679 was there was there when you think of 2491 01:53:53,930 --> 01:53:50,760 Hollywood you know glamor 2492 01:53:57,590 --> 01:53:53,940 yeah Jane Seymour oh my goodness 2493 01:54:03,770 --> 01:53:57,600 gracious okay here you go you ready yes 2494 01:54:10,189 --> 01:54:07,270 out of time I love it 2495 01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,199 I love it that's the license plate from 2496 01:54:15,649 --> 01:54:13,199 Back to the Future that is it that is it 2497 01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,659 the very one right there with this one 2498 01:54:19,490 --> 01:54:17,119 whoa 2499 01:54:22,430 --> 01:54:19,500 you know Back to the Future was a very 2500 01:54:24,770 --> 01:54:22,440 good one too you know and it it made 2501 01:54:26,330 --> 01:54:24,780 people think about it a lot you know I I 2502 01:54:28,490 --> 01:54:26,340 love it but 2503 01:54:30,970 --> 01:54:28,500 um in my opinion 2504 01:54:36,290 --> 01:54:30,980 and I watch 2505 01:54:38,990 --> 01:54:36,300 Amazon Netflix now with their AI engine 2506 01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:39,000 I've got my own sub category it pops up 2507 01:54:43,970 --> 01:54:41,520 right there time travel movies 2508 01:54:47,209 --> 01:54:43,980 I watched him so often but there was a 2509 01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:47,219 movie that was made for uh 2510 01:54:54,530 --> 01:54:51,920 um Seven Grand it's called primer ooh 2511 01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:54,540 write that down write it down write it 2512 01:55:02,149 --> 01:54:57,360 down primer 2513 01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:02,159 as far as uh time travel movie it is 2514 01:55:08,870 --> 01:55:05,760 excellent seven grand these HIDs a 2515 01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,880 couple of Brothers made it with their 2516 01:55:13,209 --> 01:55:11,280 parents credit card at their parents 2517 01:55:15,370 --> 01:55:13,219 house wow 2518 01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:15,380 top-notch primer 2519 01:55:20,330 --> 01:55:18,480 hey Von thank you so much I I look 2520 01:55:24,410 --> 01:55:20,340 forward to the next time that I have you 2521 01:55:27,229 --> 01:55:24,420 on the show and it can we do can we do a 2522 01:55:29,629 --> 01:55:27,239 night of Consciousness that's it just 2523 01:55:32,030 --> 01:55:29,639 Consciousness yeah 2524 01:55:35,149 --> 01:55:32,040 great I I know you've got something to 2525 01:55:36,770 --> 01:55:35,159 say about Consciousness oh yeah yeah I 2526 01:55:39,770 --> 01:55:36,780 mean I mean I get the whole new series 2527 01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:39,780 we have in ancient wisdom series is 2528 01:55:43,490 --> 01:55:42,239 going to be all unconsciousness and 2529 01:55:45,050 --> 01:55:43,500 we're going to put them in Scrolls 2530 01:55:47,330 --> 01:55:45,060 because I don't I don't know if anything 2531 01:55:50,209 --> 01:55:47,340 is going to survive I don't know where 2532 01:55:52,669 --> 01:55:50,219 this is all ending up I mean ultimately 2533 01:55:53,450 --> 01:55:52,679 it's gonna it's all gonna you know be 2534 01:55:54,890 --> 01:55:53,460 fine 2535 01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:54,900 but we're going to go through a dark 2536 01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:57,119 period I'm afraid and things are going 2537 01:56:03,290 --> 01:55:58,800 to be buried in the earth just to be 2538 01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:06,310 I'm gonna have to bury some guitars 2539 01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:08,880 don't lose the guitars they'll be 2540 01:56:15,590 --> 01:56:10,560 digging them up and say what were they 2541 01:56:18,250 --> 01:56:15,600 what was it this is string theory spring 2542 01:56:22,910 --> 01:56:20,050 sure 2543 01:56:25,129 --> 01:56:22,920 a perfect conversation tonight thank you 2544 01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:25,139 so much my friend and I know you're 2545 01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,360 dealing with the weather up there I just 2546 01:56:32,109 --> 01:56:29,520 hope you guys stay safe and we'll talk 2547 01:56:35,450 --> 01:56:32,119 soon thank you so much great take care 2548 01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:35,460 perfect show tonight absolutely perfect 2549 01:56:42,530 --> 01:56:39,840 show and uh Vaughn's uh website which 2550 01:56:44,750 --> 01:56:42,540 the link is below 2551 01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:44,760 um is his Facebook page so you can reach 2552 01:56:51,530 --> 01:56:48,719 out Devon over there and uh I have a 2553 01:56:54,410 --> 01:56:51,540 complete list of his books over on 2554 01:56:57,290 --> 01:56:54,420 jimmychurch radio.com and throughout 2555 01:57:00,590 --> 01:56:57,300 social media that's it this is Thursday 2556 01:57:02,270 --> 01:57:00,600 night I'm heading into the weekend I 2557 01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:02,280 want everybody to have a great safe fun 2558 01:57:07,310 --> 01:57:06,000 amazing weekend and uh next week 2559 01:57:11,090 --> 01:57:07,320 yeah 2560 01:57:13,729 --> 01:57:11,100 next week it's going to be all UFOs all 2561 01:57:15,290 --> 01:57:13,739 night long that's right after the UFO 2562 01:57:18,290 --> 01:57:15,300 hearing this week 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